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cj3 horn button

Post by sunnybob » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:56 am

looking for any exploded diagrams on the horn arrangement on the steering column. Mine is broken and I think I am going to have to make something.
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Re: cj3 horn button

Post by Bruce W » Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:57 pm

I don't know of any diagrams or drawings, but it's very simple. No need to make anything, it's all available:

https://www.vintagejeeps.com/p-479-horn ... 359-k.aspx

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Re: cj3 horn button

Post by Joe Gopan » Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:58 am

CJ-3A use two style buttons, earl had the Bakelite Button as installed on MB/GPW,late 52 on had the rubber cap as installed on CJ-5.
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Re: cj3 horn button

Post by Bruce W » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:56 pm

Ha! I learned something today! Thanks Joel! BW
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Re: cj3 horn button

Post by Joe Gopan » Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:52 am

And a reminder, CJ-5 Horn Button after 1961 is different and does not fit.
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Re: cj3 horn button

Post by Rus Curtis » Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:40 am

I noticed some detail in the Parts Manual I have. The exploded view in it is for the small horn button that sits on the steering wheel nut - but that's specific for the early CJ-3B that I own.

It's difficult to know without more information what you have. Stock wheel/ swapped wheel from another model, year, etc. A picture could help with what you need.
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Re: cj3 horn button

Post by Joe Gopan » Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:13 pm

I remember the CJ-3B having the rubber caps from the beginning.
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Re: cj3 horn button

Post by Bruce W » Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:09 am

Joe Gopan wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:13 pm
I remember the CJ-3B having the rubber caps from the beginning.
That’s what my ‘53, 3B has. BW
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Re: cj3 horn button

Post by Rus Curtis » Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:58 pm

I did find a bit more info and some images on the early style:
https://cj3b.info/Tech/HornButton.html

Studying the 3B changes, you'll note there are two different horn buttons.

https://cj3b.info/Dating/Dating1.html

As I dug into this, it appears up to '62 the small raised button was used. 1963 and on appears to have the larger recessed button:

1962
https://cj3b.info/Photos/Owners/1962/He ... 62Dash.jpg

1963
https://cj3b.info/Photos/Owners/Charnok ... terior.JPG

1964
https://cj3b.info/Photos/Owners/1964/De ... 64Dash.jpg
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Re: cj3 horn button

Post by Joe Gopan » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:23 pm

There were 3 style Horn Buttons used starting with MB/GPW thru CJ-2A early CJ-3A, CJ-3B and late 61 Era CJ-5

Small Bakelite MB/GPW CJ-2A, Early CJ-3A
1-1/4" Rubber, Late CJ-3A, all CJ-3B, CJ-5 up thru late 1961
2-3/8" Recessed CJ-3B and CJ-5 Starting with late 1961
The Early M-38 did have a small Bakelite similar to MB/GPW, CJ-2A, etc., but it was configured different on the bottom surface with a dimple.
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