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Re: How To Identify a WWII MBT or Bantam 1/4 Ton Trailer

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:37 pm
by Raflad
Hi Chuck, this is the best photo I have for now, will be back down with the trailer next week if you need something better. Does the USA number I gave match your records? I'll email you the other information you required.

Re: How To Identify a WWII MBT or Bantam 1/4 Ton Trailer

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:45 am
by sjalbert
Raflad wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:00 pm
Hi Chuck: Finally got the answers to all of the questions.

1.Data Plate. Yes it's there. Serial # 2470, delivery date 8-42IMG_3586.JPG
Does the tag that's visible below the data plate say "US AEC"? If so you better check it with a Geiger Counter :P

That's quite the find. I can't tell from your photo's but I'm assuming welded brackets for the lights.

Re: How To Identify a WWII MBT or Bantam 1/4 Ton Trailer

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:22 am
by Raflad
sjalbert wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:45 am
Raflad wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:00 pm
Hi Chuck: Finally got the answers to all of the questions.

1.Data Plate. Yes it's there. Serial # 2470, delivery date 8-42IMG_3586.JPG
Does the tag that's visible below the data plate say "US AEC"? If so you better check it with a Geiger Counter :P

That's quite the find. I can't tell from your photo's but I'm assuming welded brackets for the lights.
It came from Los Alamos, so you never know! The light brackets are welded.

Re: How To Identify a WWII MBT or Bantam 1/4 Ton Trailer

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:49 am
by gpw-sam
Hey there guys,

I have (the remains of) what I believe to be either a Bantam or Willys trailer but i'm struggling to pin down just what it is as there isn't a whole lot remaining.

The body is completely shot although maybe useful for a couple of parts. The chassis is rough but saveable so i'll probably just put a repro tub on it once the chassis is more sorted.

Does anyone have any idea what it might be/ any information about it? The fenders are crumpled but they're the rounded type.

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Any help is much appreciated,

Sam.

Re: How To Identify a WWII MBT or Bantam 1/4 Ton Trailer

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:36 pm
by nicola_luisari
Hello Chuck
Nicola from Italy

I have a trailer which is apparently a mix of Bantam and Willys.
It has spent at least 30 years in the open and was completely rusted.
I have the following info's:

1. Data plate - missing
2. USA number - missing
3. ACM number - 3861 B
4. Upper shock mount - threaded nut
4.b Lower shock mount - cotter-pin type
5. Axel: with a cast housing in the center marked A 6399
6. Springs - 10 leaves
7. Tail lights mounts welded
9. No unit numbers
10. No bolt markings

Can you please provide the following information?
  • Serial Number Estimate:
  • DOD estimate:
  • USA Number Estimate:
many thanks
Nicola

Re: How To Identify a WWII MBT or Bantam 1/4 Ton Trailer

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:15 am
by Chuck Lutz
Nicola....check your email.

Re: How To Identify a WWII MBT or Bantam 1/4 Ton Trailer

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:26 am
by Chuck Lutz
gpw-sam…..did you find the ACM number and did you send me the answers to the "How To ID...." section?

Re: How To Identify a WWII MBT or Bantam 1/4 Ton Trailer

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:02 pm
by Knut
Hello Chuck,


this is my cousins MBT Trailer, ex Austrian Army, located now in Deutschlandsberg, Styria:

1- Data Plate: missing
2- USA Number: missing
3- ACM Number: 86049
4- Upper Shock Mount: cotter-pin type BOLTED, LOWER shock mount cotter-pin
5- Axel tube welded seam in the middle
6- Springs: Eight Standard FLAT Willys type, spring clips with the closure on bottom
7- Taillights & Reflectors: missing
8- Taillight Mounts: Standard "L" brackets bolted to the tub
9- Numbers: none
10- Bolts:
axle bumpers: plain
fender bracket to frame: plain
conduit to frame clip: plain
hand brake lever to pawl: AA
hand brake lever to ratchet: AA
hand brake ratchet to frame: EC
conduit to bracket on backing plate: I
fender to body: 7 plain, 3 A, 2 C
brake backing plate: plain
spring bracket to frame: A
''A'' frame clamp screw: A
''A'' frame channel to frame: C-TR
11- Unit Numbers: none

We are looking for a close USA no. and serial no.
D-o-d would be 11-1943?

Any info you have will be appreciated!


Knut

New to Trailers

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:46 pm
by Boremop
Chuck,
Here's what I have for now. (Since I'm in the process of moving, it will be all I have for a while until I can get back to working on it).
1) Data Plate: Yes Bantam, Serial#663, Delivery Date 9-2-1942
2) USA Number: None located
3) ACM Number: Have not located yet.
4) Upper Shock Mount: Riveted with nut
5) Axle: has weld in the middle
6) Springs: How many leaves in the springs? Eight (FLAT type I think?) Spring clips with the closure on the bottom.
7) Taillights & Reflectors: missing.
8 ) Taillight Mounts: welded on.
9) Numbers: none found.. yet
10) Bolts: too rusted at this point
11) Unit Numbers: faint traces but not legible

Re: How To Identify a WWII MBT or Bantam 1/4 Ton Trailer

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:10 pm
by zepher11
Obviously, something went awry with my chain set up. I bought these quite a while ago as MBT trailer chains. They seem a tad short unless I only drive in a straight line. Back to the drawing board so to speak:

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Re: How To Identify a WWII MBT or Bantam 1/4 Ton Trailer

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:58 pm
by Jeepy78
Dear Chuck
Jerome from France (near Paris )

My trailer comes from the french army , it has been rebuilt once for sure, there is a plate on it where we can the date of it's last rebuilt in 1965 .
It has all the attributes of an early MBT version

1. Data plate - missing
2. USA number - missing
3. ACM number - W 20 426
4. Upper shock mount - cotter-pin type - riveted
4.b Lower shock mount - cotter-pin type
5. Axel: with a cast housing in the center marked A 6399
6. Springs - 10 leaves
7. Tail lights mounts welded (I can see the welded remains , it is now bolted with remanufactured brackets
9. No unit numbers - only french numbers that will only give a clue on it's post war life ! ( in south of France !)
10. No bolt markings

I wish I could get all the information you can get about this trailer.

Many thanks in advance for your help.
Best Regards

Re: How To Identify a WWII MBT or Bantam 1/4 Ton Trailer

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:01 pm
by Jeepy78
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Re: How To Identify a WWII MBT or Bantam 1/4 Ton Trailer

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:24 pm
by Chuck Lutz
Knut.....that trailer will be VERY close to the one you sent me info on, MBT serial number #84171. I do not have the ACM number from that one in my data base though. Since I don't have any others in the ACM number range of #86049 in my data base right now....any estimate of your cousin's MBT would be dependant on the ACM number from YOUR trailer. If you can send me that ACM number from your trailer, I can give you a MUCH better estimate for your cousin.

Re: How To Identify a WWII MBT or Bantam 1/4 Ton Trailer

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:27 pm
by Chuck Lutz
Zeph...someone has messed with the LINKS on your chains. You should have two LONGER links, one at each end and NINE slightly shorter links. Like this:
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Re: How To Identify a WWII MBT or Bantam 1/4 Ton Trailer

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:48 pm
by Chuck Lutz
Jerome...can you check the ACM number once more please? Not everyone sends me all the answers to the "How To ID" questions, but I do have several MBTs in the low 17151W range with WELDED taillight brackets and another at 17447W with BOLTED taillight brackets.