MB42/GPW43 Frankenweenie

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Re: MB42/GPW43 Frankenweenie

Post by 17thAirborne » Tue May 23, 2023 4:38 pm

Excellent work. Good to see the GPW and F markings were uncovered. You will be the radiator guru, or know more about them than you wanted.
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Re: MB42/GPW43 Frankenweenie

Post by ww2DAD » Tue May 23, 2023 7:26 pm

Thanks Ozzie. For every hole I fix I find another. I think I'm down to the last 4. 2 new and 2 repeats. Hopefully tomorrow I can start putting it back together. I probably won't know if it works until I pressure test it.

As far a guru, I've guru-ed enough. I have had to relearn things I'd forgotten and found things I didn't know. Still waiting on Chevy core to see if I can build a Willys core from it. I will post that when the time comes. Glad you sold the Greek jeep and good luck on selling the other.

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Re: MB42/GPW43 Frankenweenie

Post by ww2DAD » Fri May 26, 2023 7:14 pm

After cleaning, sanding, fluxing and tinning I've got the top tank and core ready to assemble. As a precaution after doing all that I found one more hole in the core. I will repair it tomorrow and solder on the top tank.
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Re: MB42/GPW43 Frankenweenie

Post by ww2DAD » Sat May 27, 2023 9:04 pm

Tank top and radiator core soldered back together. Wired top to core to keep it in place for soldering. Then I gently hammered the core's top plate sides against the tank top's edges before fluxing and soldering. Started at one end and worked my way to the other end cutting the wires when I got to their location. Entire top took about 40 minutes. After it cooled a little, I went back and reheated small areas to wipe off excess solder. I then finished fixing the lower tank.

Lower tank had two spots where it had cracked from freezing. I also had to make a brass gap filler plate to put around the outlet pipe on the inside of the tank. Plate and pipe were then soldered to the tank. Fixing the lower took the rest of the afternoon. Tomorrow, I will solder the lower tank on and then fix one small pin hole in the core. Pressure test after that.

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Re: MB42/GPW43 Frankenweenie

Post by ww2DAD » Mon May 29, 2023 7:38 pm

Happy Memorial Day to everyone. Thank you to everyone who served and those who are no longer among us.

The basic radiator minus the frame and fan shroud is finished. I had to make one adjustment to the lower tank outlet pipe. When I found the radiator, the lower tank pipe was at a 90 degree angle. That is how I soldered it back on (last post picture). Yesterday I checked it against the metal connecting pipe to the water pump and had to change the angle (approx 30 to 35 degrees). After that it was simply wiring it in place to the core, hammering the lower plate sides against the tank and soldering. I did a water test after fixing the one pin hole and had two leakers. Will fix those tomorrow and then sand blast the frame and shroud. Hopefully should be able to paint by the end of the week if it seals up.

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Re: MB42/GPW43 Frankenweenie

Post by ww2DAD » Wed May 31, 2023 6:09 pm

Pressure test time. After fixing one more drip that occurred after filling the radiator with water, I hooked up my bicycle pump to a rubber expanding stopper with a screw in valve stem and pumped it up to 8 PSI. Three leaks happened and they were from previous repairs. After I redo these I will try again. Chevy rad core finally arrived and I will also look at modifying that for the Willys radiator. Picture one is of the stopper with valve stem. It's an expanding plug that had a bolt thru it, and replaced with a valve stem that came from Auto Zone. Second is of the bicycle pump set up.
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Re: MB42/GPW43 Frankenweenie

Post by 70th Division » Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:22 am

ww2DAD wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 7:38 pm
Happy Memorial Day to everyone. Thank you to everyone who served and those who are no longer among us.

The basic radiator minus the frame and fan shroud is finished. I had to make one adjustment to the lower tank outlet pipe. When I found the radiator, the lower tank pipe was at a 90 degree angle. That is how I soldered it back on (last post picture). Yesterday I checked it against the metal connecting pipe to the water pump and had to change the angle (approx 30 to 35 degrees). After that it was simply wiring it in place to the core, hammering the lower plate sides against the tank and soldering. I did a water test after fixing the one pin hole and had two leakers. Will fix those tomorrow and then sand blast the frame and shroud. Hopefully should be able to paint by the end of the week if it seals up.

Mike
Hello Mike,

I hope you had a great Memorail Day, it should be a month long if you ask me, but it is good to remeber all those Veterans and what they did for America.


You radiator work is looking great !!
I think you are a real pioneer rebuilding it, and showing all the G how to go about the restoration.

Well done !!


Best Regards,
Ray

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Re: MB42/GPW43 Frankenweenie

Post by ww2DAD » Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:42 pm

Ray,

I did and thank you. I agree and it should be a month long. I was going to visit my mother and father who are buried together at the National Cemetery in Santa Fe but unfortunately my wife had her knee replaced just before Memorial Day. She can't travel until the doctor lets her.

I have been pulling double duty by helping her and sneaking out and working on the radiator. Unfortunately, the GPW core was a bust. Held water when not under pressure but leaked like a sieve when pressurized. Too many holes. I did score a NOS 1960s Willys core and have since used it as a replacement. Today was pressure test and I got a hosing when I forgot that I had a simple rubber cork stopper and not expanding stopper in the lower pipe. It didn't help that I was sitting there facing it when I pumped up the radiator with air. Drenched from head to foot but I was laughing because I hadn't thought about that happening.

Radiator was filled again and held pressure for six hours with no leaks. It is a true Frankenweenie radiator. GPW top tank, Willys NOS core, and a Willys lower tank. Frame and shroud have been sandblasted and interior areas on these are painted khaki green. Tomorrow I will assemble the frame to the radiator. I know it's not a true Willys or GPW radiator, but it fits the Frankenweenie theme.

The Chevy core also came in and I will experiment with that. I plan on pulling the GPW core apart and rebuilding it using parts from the Chevy core. While waiting on the parts I went ahead and finished the rear drive shaft yoke. Turned the JB weld down and installed the speedy sleeve and slinger but forgot to put in the bolts. After moving slinger and sleeve back off a bit I was able to get them in. Should have thought of that. I didn't quite read the instructions correctly for the sleeve and found that it says to use something like JB weld and while soft, slide the sleeve on. I did it the long route and it still worked.

Here are pictures of the Frankenweenie rebuild. You can see the GPW top and the Willys core and bottom. I'm happy with it.

Take care,
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Frankenweenie tank

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Re: MB42/GPW43 Frankenweenie

Post by ww2DAD » Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:14 pm

Happy and honorable D Day June 6th. Ray you were right! We should have had a complete month for the vets.

Whew - done. It took longer to get all the accessories for the radiator fixed and attached then the radiator even thou this one is the third time. I spent more time just making the stupid overflow tube than putting on the top and bottom tanks. Shroud required some minor mods to fit the frankenweenie tanks. Only thing left is final paint. Tank holds water and pressure. 60s NOS core is a slightly larger than original but I was able to make things fit. Will hold on to paint because my father-in-law has a project he needs done first (gunsmithing).

Pictures are of the front and back on the completed radiator. It wasn't too difficult and with patience and getting your toes burnt from solder every now and then (ya I do things in flip flops), it went together fairly smooth. I will wait until the jeep is done before I build a new core from the other parts.

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Re: MB42/GPW43 Frankenweenie

Post by ww2DAD » Tue Jun 13, 2023 8:08 pm

Okay I know I have been remiss in posting but after the radiator rebuild I got stuck doing some gunsmithing work for my father-in-law. He needed a 240 PSP (Paige Super Pooper) barrel screwed into and headspaced on a Remington 700 receiver. That wore me out.

Back to working on bonding straps, installation of same and working on the thin metal plate that is located under generator and starter. Found a nice GPW F mark stamped into the metal after sandblasting. First pic is of my bond strap straightener/fluxer/tinner and a couple of completed straps. Top strap is one I built bottom is an original after retinning. Second set of pictures is of the metal plate before straightening, after straightening, sandblasting, and the GPW F mark. Tomorrow will be welding the break and then painting and install.

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Re: MB42/GPW43 Frankenweenie

Post by 70th Division » Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:30 am

ww2DAD wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:14 pm
Happy and honorable D Day June 6th. Ray you were right! We should have had a complete month for the vets.

Whew - done. It took longer to get all the accessories for the radiator fixed and attached then the radiator even thou this one is the third time. I spent more time just making the stupid overflow tube than putting on the top and bottom tanks. Shroud required some minor mods to fit the frankenweenie tanks. Only thing left is final paint. Tank holds water and pressure. 60s NOS core is a slightly larger than original but I was able to make things fit. Will hold on to paint because my father-in-law has a project he needs done first (gunsmithing).

Pictures are of the front and back on the completed radiator. It wasn't too difficult and with patience and getting your toes burnt from solder every now and then (ya I do things in flip flops), it went together fairly smooth. I will wait until the jeep is done before I build a new core from the other parts.

Mike
Hello Mike,

Beautiful Craftsmanship and effort on that radiator !!

I might recommend getting some Wolverine work boots :D
They are pretty comfortable and will protect your feet when working and welding on the jeep :D !


Best Regards,
Ray

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Re: MB42/GPW43 Frankenweenie

Post by ww2DAD » Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:24 pm

Ray,
Thank you. Happy Father's Day. Got the splash shield finished and installed with the battery tray. I redid the splash shied 3 times because I wasn't happy with the results. I did use your method of backing my welds with an aluminum block and then used metallic mix Bondo to fix pin holes and divots after grinding and sanding. I'm done with it now. Will start on the rear drive shaft this week. Take care.
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shield welded, installed, and F bolt(s) on batt tray

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Re: MB42/GPW43 Frankenweenie

Post by ww2DAD » Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:37 pm

Today I did some back tracking. I was going to install the rear transfer case driveshaft yoke and begin assembling the external parking brake pieces when I found a problem. I had gone to my brother's website to refresh how he did it, when I noticed that the yoke went thru the brake drum before the oil slinger went in place and the bolts passed thru the drum from the back to the yoke. I had falsely assumed that the drum just bolted between the yoke and the yoke attachment for the rear driveshaft. It had been a year since I pulled it apart and I only took a few pictures of this area. So after pulling the yoke from the rear transfer case shaft and disassembling the yoke, I reassembled the yoke to the drum correctly and am ready to put it back on the shaft. I also relined the brake band. I had spent a couple of hours doing research on what the correct assembly for the external brake drum and yoke should be but could not find much. Here are my pictures and they follow what my brother did, and what I could find on line from the photographs.
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brake drum and yoke, and relined band

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Re: MB42/GPW43 Frankenweenie

Post by ww2DAD » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:58 pm

On to the next stage. Found these F marked parking brake parts during cleanup. It included a FORD marked bolt used to hold the main parking brake crank.
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Re: MB42/GPW43 Frankenweenie

Post by ww2DAD » Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:05 pm

Here are pictures of the various cams and the parking brake crank assembled in relation to each other. Whom ever came up with this should have been shot out of a cannon! I used my brother's website and various pictures found on the computer to get them set up correctly. The two smaller cams that attach the parking brake crank to the brake band cam have bends in them and go from the outside of the crank and then bend to the inside to attach to the band cam. You can kind of see the bends in the center picture. I used the small aluminum block to separate things for the picture. After getting all together to see how it worked, I removed the large cam pin in order to get the band in place.
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