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When repainting an MB, what do you prefer?
Shiny paint, usually referred to as 'Mix' or rather matte paint?
Does anyone have a preferred supplier in FR / BEL / NL ?
I heard that STAMAN in NL has good paint, but only matte as it appears on the site.
Shiny paint, usually referred to as 'Mix' or rather matte paint?
Does anyone have a preferred supplier in FR / BEL / NL ?
I heard that STAMAN in NL has good paint, but only matte as it appears on the site.
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Re: Paint
MBs, GPWs (and other WWII military vehicles) should be lusterless (matte). Reflections off of glossy paint makes the vehicles way too visible to enemy fire.
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1942 MBT 10968 viewtopic.php?f=18&t=149552
1942 MBT 15799, USA 0217497 viewtopic.php?f=18&t=225199
MVPA # 8587
Com / Inst. SMEL
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Re: Paint
Hi,
Both ours are OD with 10% sheen” from Dallas in Newbury U.K.
We like the colour and the slight sheen stops greasy finger marks showing up.
I know people who have the lustreless finish and end up wiping it down with WD-40, which gives it a sheen!!!
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Both ours are OD with 10% sheen” from Dallas in Newbury U.K.
We like the colour and the slight sheen stops greasy finger marks showing up.
I know people who have the lustreless finish and end up wiping it down with WD-40, which gives it a sheen!!!
Scrumps
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Aug ‘44 Willys MB
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Aug ‘44 Willys MB
2021 New Defender 90 D250 HSE
2005 Landrover 90 CSW
2024 Range Rover Sport
1967 MGB
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Re: Paint
fiwi463pfa wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 8:58 amWhen repainting an MB, what do you prefer?
Shiny paint, usually referred to as 'Mix' or rather matte paint?
Does anyone have a preferred supplier in FR / BEL / NL ?
I heard that STAMAN in NL has good paint, but only matte as it appears on the site.
Hello,
The paint used is an interesting decision.
The common paint 33070 in my opinion looks good, but tends to not have strong UV ultra violet resistance .
It seems to get a faded or chalky look after outdoor exposure over time.
Many people use it, and are happy with it.
Painting your jeep takes a lot of time and effort, not to mention expense.
I am restoring a GPW now, and I am using 2430 paint by Gillespie.
This paint does have good UV properties, holds up well after years in the sun and weather.
It is a "semi gloss" paint, but the gloss disappears nicely.
The olive drab that it is, is a beautiful shade, and long lasting.
If when your vehicle is complete, and you paint is cured, you can also rub some old motor oil to it and the very slight gloss is instantly eliminated.
I love this paint, as it holds up, doesn't absorb oil, finger prints, etc. and is washable.
The paint can is labeled as 1944-1957, so a lot of research has been done.
I have seen on my vehicles, that a 1941 Dodge WC-12 , has an original shade of paint that matches very closely the 2430 shade, as it is darker shade than 33070 by a large margin.
Also , the original paint on my January, 1942 Slat grill is a close match to this paint, darker than 33070.
Thus, I am convinced and will use it on all my WW2 vehicles because it is a durable and lasting paint, that will not fade or get chalky.
Here are a few pictures of parts painted with the 2430 late war paint.
I recommend it, and again will use it on all my WW2 Vehicles like Jeeps, Command Car, and GMC, etc !!
Very little actual gloss, and a nice long lasting paint job !!
Good Luck !!!
Best Regards,
Ray
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Hello David,
Yes it might not be too bad to ship, but these days everything is higher and screwed up.
There may be a European equivalent available ?
I really, really, like this paint and it looks very nice.
It holds up very well exposed to the elements.
I painted a test section 12 or more years ago, on a jeep, and it still looks good, and wasn't garage kept.
Best Regards,
Ray
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Re: Paint
My GPW in absolutely flat MAT1, compare the paint to an NOS rear light cover...
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Westfield Columbia MG138969 & MG140418 (1943)
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Ford GPW272xxx (1945)
Bantam T3 56433(Est) (1945)
John Wood M3A4 17564 (1943)
Johnston Lawn Mower Co RL35-A 1255 (1944)
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Huffman D50546 (1942)
Westfield Columbia MG138969 & MG140418 (1943)
HD 42WLA31854 (1943)
Ford GPW272xxx (1945)
Bantam T3 56433(Est) (1945)
John Wood M3A4 17564 (1943)
Johnston Lawn Mower Co RL35-A 1255 (1944)
BSA Mark V* T136102 (1944)
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Hello Johan,Johan WILLAERT wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 7:39 amMy GPW in absolutely flat MAT1, compare the paint to an NOS rear light cover...
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Wow that is a great shade as well !!
Definitely a match !!
You have a beautiful Jeep right there, and nice Ford tires too
Well done sir !!
Best Regards,
Ray
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Thx Ray, much appreciated!70th Division wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 4:44 pm
You have a beautiful Jeep right there, and nice Ford tires too
Well done sir !!
Best Regards,
Ray
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Huffman D50546 (1942)
Westfield Columbia MG138969 & MG140418 (1943)
HD 42WLA31854 (1943)
Ford GPW272xxx (1945)
Bantam T3 56433(Est) (1945)
John Wood M3A4 17564 (1943)
Johnston Lawn Mower Co RL35-A 1255 (1944)
BSA Mark V* T136102 (1944)
The Liberator
Huffman D50546 (1942)
Westfield Columbia MG138969 & MG140418 (1943)
HD 42WLA31854 (1943)
Ford GPW272xxx (1945)
Bantam T3 56433(Est) (1945)
John Wood M3A4 17564 (1943)
Johnston Lawn Mower Co RL35-A 1255 (1944)
BSA Mark V* T136102 (1944)
The Liberator
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Re: Paint
Johan WILLAERT wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 7:39 amMy GPW in absolutely flat MAT1, compare the paint to an NOS rear light cover...
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Hi Johan, can You tell me. where did You bought Your paint? I like finał effect and I want also use it on my jeep
Regards
Michał
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Re: Paint
Ok thanks, I searched on dealers sites and everyone of them has their own mat1. Also some of them has variant for 41-42 year and different lne for 43-45. Are You sure these paint are exactly the same paint everywhere? Why there is no the same label on cans but each of them has their own label? I am afraid that I will buy paint from one dealer and it will not looks like I want. Thats why I am asking where Johan bought his paint because I want to get the same finał results of colour.
Regards
Michał
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Flak38 - project finished in99%
BMW r35 - project finished in 50%
Ford GPW VEP #2996 - just started of renovation
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Flak38 - project finished in99%
BMW r35 - project finished in 50%
Ford GPW VEP #2996 - just started of renovation
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Re: Paint
The paint is the same colour but the exact shade will be a bit different with every separate batch, just like it was originally. So even if you order the same paint from the same place as Johan, the colour will be the same but the exact shade will most likely be a little bit different. However, this will hardly be noticeable even when your jeeps are parked next to each other. When you get your paint, make sure all tins have the same batch number.
My jeep is heading towards a repaint, and I will go with MAT1.
My jeep is heading towards a repaint, and I will go with MAT1.
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