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ETHANOL FREE

Post by Ben Dover » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:08 pm

Try a tank full or two in your Jeep, notice the positive difference in starting after a week or two, it does make a difference. It really is noticeable in my CCKW.
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Post by Scoutpilot » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:01 am

Ethanol-free is all I use in my Jeeps and small motors. Easier, smoother starting and more consistent power. Fewer carb problems.
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Post by Ralph » Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:18 pm

Agree with above...Ethanol,the silent carb killer...stays fresh only 45 days or less in hot weather...then it turns to varnish to do the damage.
It's worth the search for Ethanol-Free gas.Good for 5 months storage and maybe more with a splash of Startron...some EF gas is rated 85 Octane though I can tell no difference from 87.
Ethanol is especially destructive to two stroke engines.Most here on the G know all of this...guess that's why I don't see it mentioned much.
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Post by YLG80 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:08 am

Yesterday I could not start an engine (blower).
Last year, the tank was left almost full with E15 fuel.
I've decided to remove that fuel through a filter.
This is what the funnel filter has retained only for 1.5 liter of fuel.(.3 gallon)
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It's like a gel that plugs the funnel filter and the filters in the machine :evil: .
The engine has restarted only after a complete fuel line and carburetor cleanup.
Due to that, it took me an hour just to restart that blower :shock:

As Joël wrote, it's better to use only ethanol free in our jeeps.

I'm gradually getting rid of E15 fuel in all engines and use only 98 octane "ethanol free".
I've already changed the fuel in my jeep two months ago

There is still a little problem and it's written on the public fuel pump : "98 fuel may contain ethanol traces" :( !
OK if it's only traces :)!
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Post by Fabrizio » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:58 am

In France (and I think it’s the new EU norm) the 98 is an « E5 »
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Post by YLG80 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:42 am

Yes, you are right.
I've just read the sentence about traces of ethanol on the lead free 98 pump :D
I guess that they want to allow some mix in the truck tanks.
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Diesel is renamed B7 ...
To my knowledge, the super ethanol E85 is not available here.

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Post by Wolfman » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:47 am

Ethanol fuel has made me a lot of money !! Especially in the spring, when the grass turns green !! :D
And it really helped corn prices !!
Other than that, I don't have much use for it.
I keep a glass jar on the shelf to show my customers. Has ethanol fuel in it that has separated. Funky blue green stuff on the bottom. That is the separated ethanol and water. Brown fuel on top. Blue green funk won't burn.
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Post by YLG80 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:09 am

Ethanol fuel has made me a lot of money !!
You are not the only one.
The guy of the shop who sold me my mower told me that they are now selling a special Stihl fuel at about 3 times the price at the pump !
That's an ethanol free fuel for blowers, brush cutters etc ...
Not for me :)!
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Post by Ralph » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:43 am

Ethanol not only ruins the fuel storage & intake areas...on two-stroke engines the spark arrestors need to be cleaned more often.They will gum up and the engine won't run beyond idle or very low speed.Guess I've fixed 4 or 5 on my street.
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Re: ETHANOL FREE

Post by Wolfman » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:39 am

We have pre mix, ready to use 2 cycle fuel over here as well, Yves. About $4 or $5 U.S. a quart. :shock: But on the other hand, how much would it cost to rebuild the engine ??
Marketing. If you live in a big city and had to drive across town to get non-ethanol fuel and buy the 2-cycle oil to put in it, just to weed eat around your front porch, $5 ain't that bad. Out here in farm country where we use non-ethanol all the time, and lots of it. ??? Don't think so !
Thing about ethanol, Ralph, is you put oil in the 2 cycle gas to lubricate the engine and ethanol fuel has alcohol in it that washes oil off metal. ???????? Don't make sense to me.
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Re: ETHANOL FREE

Post by Marty, SoCal » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:36 pm

In California, E10 is all you can get in any grade of road legal gasoline. :evil:
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