jeep pet hates
- Wingnutt
- G-Lieutenant General
- Posts: 5029
- Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:17 pm
- Location:
Re: jeep pet hates
I don't understand the tow rope as a pet peeve. Just because there are so many of them out there (i.e., overdone)? Or what? If they are 1" in diameter (Mark's splendid 2" Navy hawser an honorary exception to the contrary...), made of manila or hemp, and about 20 to 25 feet long, they are perfectly period correct. I will admit I prefer them loosely wrapped in a figure 8 for field expedient use, but a lot of staff and HQ jeeps had them tightly wrapped. Out of curiosity, can someone who is bugged by them explain why? This is a new one on me.
TEMPORARY DUTY
- Lee Bishop
- G503 War Correspondent
- Posts: 2740
- Joined: Fri Dec 13, 2002 6:46 pm
- Location: Pacific Northwest USA, via North Florida
Re: jeep pet hates
I was wondering the same thing.
Tow ropes are probably seen way more commonly with people like us on our Jeeps than in real life, but so are also the canvas buckets on the jerry cans (yeah, I have one back there, too), and full kit of shovel/axe, full canvas 'arctic tops and other such things. Period photos show these items missing very often from combat Jeeps but many of us 'gotta have' them in place.
Owner, 1944 Willys MB #366014
Former US Army Captain and REMF
Former US Army Captain and REMF
- Mark Tombleson
- MZ Radio Operator
- Posts: 9836
- Joined: Wed Dec 11, 2002 7:58 pm
- Location: Selah, Washington
Re: jeep pet hates
My personal opinion is owners want to make their jeep stand out in what they see as one of thousands of jeeps. A way to do it is just as I have above with a period photo showing the item and duplicating that scene on their own jeep.
Some period photos are very complicated with a lot of stuff in the jeep. Note the camo.
As far as pet peeves... it use to be correct bolts and tools, but it is easier to know and get the proper items now. Nothing ruined it for me like seeing a great restoration with modern thin bolt heads & markings.
Some period photos are very complicated with a lot of stuff in the jeep. Note the camo.
As far as pet peeves... it use to be correct bolts and tools, but it is easier to know and get the proper items now. Nothing ruined it for me like seeing a great restoration with modern thin bolt heads & markings.
MB-NAVY-MZ-1 352625 - 07/20/44 (DOD est.)
U.S.N. 133818
2nd place Restored Class 2008 Portland Convention
MVPA Hall of Fame - 2013
U.S.N. 133818
2nd place Restored Class 2008 Portland Convention
MVPA Hall of Fame - 2013
- 17thAirborne
- G-Lieutenant General
- Posts: 5847
- Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2004 5:42 am
- Location: Central TN
Re: jeep pet hates
My pet peeve is people who hate tow ropes on the front bumper of Jeeps asking me. "Can I borrow your tow rope? I'm stuck!"Wingnutt wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:11 amI don't understand the tow rope as a pet peeve. Just because there are so many of them out there (i.e., overdone)? Or what? If they are 1" in diameter (Mark's splendid 2" Navy hawser an honorary exception to the contrary...), made of manila or hemp, and about 20 to 25 feet long, they are perfectly period correct. I will admit I prefer them loosely wrapped in a figure 8 for field expedient use, but a lot of staff and HQ jeeps had them tightly wrapped. Out of curiosity, can someone who is bugged by them explain why? This is a new one on me.
I'm with you I don't understand it either.
Oz
Feb 43 GPW 98532 USA 20206257
Oct 70 Land Rover Series 2a 25334079G NZ16GF36
http://gpw.castraponere.com/ (My Restoration Page)
Feb 43 GPW 98532 USA 20206257
Oct 70 Land Rover Series 2a 25334079G NZ16GF36
http://gpw.castraponere.com/ (My Restoration Page)
-
- G-Lieutenant General
- Posts: 5820
- Joined: Wed Dec 18, 2002 11:00 am
- Location:
Re: jeep pet hates
Doesn't really bug me, I just don't care for the look. I have tow ropes in both my jeeps, but in the tool box. But, that's just me, it's your jeep, do whatever blows your dress up!Out of curiosity, can someone who is bugged by them explain why?
- 1943Willysgpw
- G-Major General
- Posts: 2740
- Joined: Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:02 am
- Location: Edmond, OK
Re: jeep pet hates
"Why can't we all just get along" If I ever look at a WW2 jeep and say I do not like it because it does not have combat wheels or this or that, it will be because I have lost my mind. Admit it, we love them all and would own as many as our wives would let us...lol
"None of us are as smart as all of us"
1942 GPW 1871 DoD 2-27-42 Dallas Plant
1945 GPW 247890 DoD 1-26-45 Louisville Plant
1942 GTB 136166 DoD 9-18-42
1942 GTB 135938 DoD
1952 M100
1942 GPW 1871 DoD 2-27-42 Dallas Plant
1945 GPW 247890 DoD 1-26-45 Louisville Plant
1942 GTB 136166 DoD 9-18-42
1942 GTB 135938 DoD
1952 M100
-
- G-Colonel
- Posts: 1409
- Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:41 pm
- Location: Orinda, California
Re: jeep pet hates
I know what you mean Mark.Mark Tombleson wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:56 pmAs far as pet peeves... it use to be correct bolts and tools, but it is easier to know and get the proper items now. Nothing ruined it for me like seeing a great restoration with modern thin bolt heads & markings.
I like any jeep that’s been moved back towards what it was, even if that’s just some rattle can OD and removing the bad Bubba mods. Always good.
But with all the work needed in a great restoration, there are plenty of vintage bolts are out there to be had (or at least grind the heads smooth on the modern hardware stuff and/or use some thicker bolts).
1943 MB 213301 DOD 2-22-43
- David
- G-Colonel
- Posts: 1968
- Joined: Tue Dec 17, 2002 5:43 am
- Location: The Netherlands
Re: jeep pet hates
I have found out that storing the rope between my front bumper and whatever vehicle drives in front of me works wonders for the fuel consumption for some reason.
- Wingnutt
- G-Lieutenant General
- Posts: 5029
- Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:17 pm
- Location:
Re: jeep pet hates
17thAirborne wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:02 pmMy pet peeve is people who hate tow ropes on the front bumper of Jeeps asking me. "Can I borrow your tow rope? I'm stuck!"
Aha. I wouldn't put something completely subjective like that in the peeve category with 82nd Airborne markings, etc, so thanks for explaining.
Thunderbird712 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:07 amMy pet hate is when people talk down about people who are doing factory restorations
I don't have any pet peeves, but this is an interesting string of comments because it kind of frames up something I personally find jarring.
While I prefer the preserved/lightly restored, well-used, worn, but well-maintained combat veteran look on a jeep, I also have equal
respect and utmost admiration for a perfect 'like new' factory restoration. Both have their place. Both are very reasonably justified. The former
represents what jeeps may have looked like after a few years of service. The latter what they looked like as they rolled off the line, before they were shipped out, and before they were received by their respective units.
The jeeps that look odd or anachronistic to me are the ones that seem to want to be both things at the same time - a perfect factory-class restoration with a flawless finish, but gussied up with unit numbers on the bumpers, a pioneer kit, a tow rope, a machine gun, 50 musette bags, etc etc etc. I don't hate them. They're just confounding to the "curator" in me.
TEMPORARY DUTY
- Wingnutt
- G-Lieutenant General
- Posts: 5029
- Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:17 pm
- Location:
Re: jeep pet hates
I lied. I do have one very big and ugly pet peeve, now that I think about it. The Jeep hand wave!
Apparently, I am an a$$hole for not returning each and every wave I ever get from every tom dick and harry Jeep driver out there. Like I don't belong in the club for not returning the obligatory 'woo-hoo aren't we great!' wave. And I am not even talking about MBs and GPWs. If a guy in a Wrangler or a Laredo etc etc waves at me, apparently I am obliged to wave back. Apparently it's an unwritten rule sweeping the nation.
I feel like putting a sign on my front windshield that reads,
"JUST BECAUSE I OWN A JEEP DOESN'T MEAN I AM IN YOUR STUPID AUTOMOTIVE BRAND-CONSCIOUS CULT.
I DON’T KNOW YOU. I DON’T WANT TO KNOW YOU. AND IF I DID KNOW YOU I PROBABLY WOULDN’T LIKE YOU.
STOP WAVING AT ME!"
Apparently, I am an a$$hole for not returning each and every wave I ever get from every tom dick and harry Jeep driver out there. Like I don't belong in the club for not returning the obligatory 'woo-hoo aren't we great!' wave. And I am not even talking about MBs and GPWs. If a guy in a Wrangler or a Laredo etc etc waves at me, apparently I am obliged to wave back. Apparently it's an unwritten rule sweeping the nation.
I feel like putting a sign on my front windshield that reads,
"JUST BECAUSE I OWN A JEEP DOESN'T MEAN I AM IN YOUR STUPID AUTOMOTIVE BRAND-CONSCIOUS CULT.
I DON’T KNOW YOU. I DON’T WANT TO KNOW YOU. AND IF I DID KNOW YOU I PROBABLY WOULDN’T LIKE YOU.
STOP WAVING AT ME!"
TEMPORARY DUTY
- Jeeps4Brains
- G-Lieutenant Colonel
- Posts: 1082
- Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:56 am
- Location: Upstate SC
Re: jeep pet hates
On the hand wave thing, I am focused on driving the really old Jeep and don't always notice people off to the side in their yards.
Once I had a buddy following me in his M37 and when we got to our destination he said did you see all those folks waving at you? Some of them were on their porches and some in their yards, one guy even saluted as I drove by.
I never saw any of that.
Once I had a buddy following me in his M37 and when we got to our destination he said did you see all those folks waving at you? Some of them were on their porches and some in their yards, one guy even saluted as I drove by.
I never saw any of that.
45' MB, ??' MBT, 47' CJ2A, 48' CJ2A,
51' M38 #1, 51' M38 #2, 51' M100,
52' M37, ??' M101A1 (1st Gulf War Vet),
53' M38A1, 53' M211, 65' M151A1, 67' M416,
MVPA #31724
51' M38 #1, 51' M38 #2, 51' M100,
52' M37, ??' M101A1 (1st Gulf War Vet),
53' M38A1, 53' M211, 65' M151A1, 67' M416,
MVPA #31724
- rondo
- LTC, U.S. Army
- Posts: 782
- Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:07 am
- Location: Boise, Idaho
Re: jeep pet hates
since coming to SC from the west coast I notice that while i drive to work and back in my daily driver pickup everyone waves at me, from cars, yards, you name it. I figure its just something that friendly people in the south do, Is wave?
We don't do that out west unless its a friendly jeep to jeep wave which i'm glad to comply. but I personally have found it quite rare that another jeeper would wave.
since this is a peeve thread, I feel I should add that its my peeve that people want to pass a ww2 jeep, got that but they fill in the single car space in front of you, not figuring I created that space because of 75 year old brakes and would like to have stopping distance
We don't do that out west unless its a friendly jeep to jeep wave which i'm glad to comply. but I personally have found it quite rare that another jeeper would wave.
since this is a peeve thread, I feel I should add that its my peeve that people want to pass a ww2 jeep, got that but they fill in the single car space in front of you, not figuring I created that space because of 75 year old brakes and would like to have stopping distance
42 GPW; 41WC6
"moral courage is the most valuable and usually the most absent characteristic in men"
"moral courage is the most valuable and usually the most absent characteristic in men"
-
- G-Second Lieutenant
- Posts: 520
- Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:20 pm
- Location: Tyngsboro, MA
Re: jeep pet hates
Back in the mid 70's driving my 1973 CJ5, jeep waves for me were an uncommon thing....but cool. It only seemed to happen between CJ5's and because so few folks drove them as their "primary" vehicle (all the WWII Jeeps and early CJ's were in gas stations with plows on them) . I don't remember it happening with Jeepsters, Commandos or pickups. A little silly now since "Jeeps" are everywhere.
Tim
1945 WC-57 81674456
1944 WC-52 81750129
1945 MB 430629
1943 Ford GPW133609
1943 Ben Hur 0347395 (Gertstenlager)
1945 WC-57 81674456
1944 WC-52 81750129
1945 MB 430629
1943 Ford GPW133609
1943 Ben Hur 0347395 (Gertstenlager)
-
- G-Lieutenant General
- Posts: 5820
- Joined: Wed Dec 18, 2002 11:00 am
- Location:
Re: jeep pet hates
I get a lot of waves when I am poking down the road at 35 mph, but they only use one finger
- Lee Bishop
- G503 War Correspondent
- Posts: 2740
- Joined: Fri Dec 13, 2002 6:46 pm
- Location: Pacific Northwest USA, via North Florida
Re: jeep pet hates
I get waves all the time from people in all types of cars and walking down the road (just did a car show last weekend and going to/from, I saw a bunch of them). Maybe I'm just used to it as any WW2 Jeep is unusual to see on the road for most people. I suspect that people driving antique cars of various other types get waves, too.
But from porches and yards? Yeah, I probably don't know how many happen there as I usually have one eye on the gauges and the other on the road.
The one thing that is well intentioned that drives me nuts is when someone comes alongside my Jeep and beeps their horn. They don't get how loud that sounds when you have nothing between your ears and their horn just a few feet away. I always give the same reaction; an overemphasized grimace then I point to my ears. If they're still looking, the reaction is always the same; one of "oh man, I didn't think how loud that'd sound for you," and many mouth, "sorry" as they go on.
But from porches and yards? Yeah, I probably don't know how many happen there as I usually have one eye on the gauges and the other on the road.
The one thing that is well intentioned that drives me nuts is when someone comes alongside my Jeep and beeps their horn. They don't get how loud that sounds when you have nothing between your ears and their horn just a few feet away. I always give the same reaction; an overemphasized grimace then I point to my ears. If they're still looking, the reaction is always the same; one of "oh man, I didn't think how loud that'd sound for you," and many mouth, "sorry" as they go on.
Owner, 1944 Willys MB #366014
Former US Army Captain and REMF
Former US Army Captain and REMF
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 47 guests