MVPA Judging Standards

Create a thread to track the progress of you MB/GPW restoration progress. Previously a General Discussion board.
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Re: MVPA Judging Standards

Post by Michael O. » Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:22 pm

Chuck Lutz wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:00 am
Maybe Joe Friday is onto something here...I know of another long-standing gee member who is also fed up with the Tom Affair and is thinking of no longer contributing his extensive GPW knowledge any longer as well. First it was Luc, now Tom.

Maybe if we all knew WHY and WHO banned Tom it might be different but right now it could be for spitting on the sidewalk or a double homicide.

Any one else feel that this smells fishy? I know Tom well enough to doubt he broke the Ten Commandments, so what gives here.

Stonewalling a real explanation reminds me of political or Big Business where the cover-up is worse than the original "crime".

I agree with you Chuck.
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Re: MVPA Judging Standards

Post by Ian Fawbert » Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:42 am

unless someone has a few thousand hours of free time for the research he's done and the dozens or more trips to various archives.
Given the parts dealers are the ones who benefit in the knowledge of what part is right to sell to what person as a result of hours of archival research, maybe they can start doing the research instead?. I know SOME do SOME/a little research or pay for access to the information... but I KNOW they could do more. Perhaps its just easy to sell parts for a jeep, regardless of what one it is.

Heck, perhaps if for the last 40 years dealers/flippers/parter outer's spent some of their time DOCUMENTING the vehicles they find/sell/have in their collection and SHARED that information with others instead of just letting others share it, there might be less need for people to spend HOURS in research archives.

Ron started to get there when they started the MB and GPW judging standards WIKI.... that fell on its mush? It still exists, but not sure what we can do with it? http://jeepdraw.com/wiki.htm


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Re: MVPA Judging Standards

Post by Joe Gopan » Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:24 am

Nabholtz was very good at sharing his MV research at the various archives, and do not forget B. Sunderlin.
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Re: MVPA Judging Standards

Post by Old Pal » Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:34 am

Any update on this? I haven’t seen anything on the MVPA website.

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MVPA Restoration Standards

Post by Mike Wright » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:07 pm

Well guys it is finished and about to go to the MVPA :!: :D

This Wednesday it is going to the MVPA editor, David Doyle. It has been almost 7 years in the making; work, moving, family, retiring, building a new house and BIGGER SHOP :D , etc. comes first.

There has been a lot of help along the way from some very knowledgeable individuals. Talking to David, and depending on a few things, how many photos are not up to par is the big one, we're looking at approximately 5 months now to get it published and ready to sell. David will put it together in a published format and send me a proof and we go back and forth a couple times. Hopefully we won't have to obtain better quality photos. That is very time consuming!

Based upon a poll conducted here a couple years ago it will be in a spiral bound format. There are somewhere around 600 photos of which about 3% may be subpar. Photos are factory photos, period, and modern color. The raw word document is 276 pages. It will probably be around 265-270 when it is finalized.

I don't know what the price will be. depends on how much printing and how many are printed among other things.

I'll post updates here on this post.
Thanks to many here on the "G" who provided information, photos and permission to use their photos, you are all credited in the Guide :!:

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Re: MVPA Judging Standards

Post by Mark Tombleson » Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:46 pm

TJ, how are you going to handle the different models of MB, E.g. CAN, BRT, NOM, MZ etc?
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Re: MVPA Judging Standards

Post by Thunderbird712 » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:02 pm

My initial thought was to incorporate them throughout the document. However I stepped back from that. The majority of restorations will be to the standard MB. Including the other models will just become cluttered. So an Appendix to the document for each model will be written. This will allow us to focus on the differences without muddying the main document.
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Re: MVPA Judging Standards

Post by 17thAirborne » Sun May 24, 2020 10:07 am

Just looking for any updates on the Proof/Printing. Thanks for the work. Very excited to hear when copies willb e available. :D
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Re: MVPA Judging Standards

Post by Mike Wright » Mon May 25, 2020 8:44 am

Hi Oz,
It's with the MVPA editor. Gonna take a little while since there are somewhat over 500+ photos.
I'll post at the next stage.
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Re: MVPA Judging Standards

Post by Mike Wright » Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:04 pm

Hi Everyone,

Update.

Well this Covid stuff has evidently caused a delay in most everything in the publishing industry. The GPW Restoration Standards is moving forward, however at a mush slower rate than under normal times. Hopefully when things open up further things will speed up!
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Re: MVPA Judging Standards

Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:03 pm

Mike,
Thanks for the update.
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Re: MVPA Judging Standards

Post by Boyso » Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:27 am

Thanks for the update, can't wait.

When its released, if there are other members from Canada interested, we could do a group buy.
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Re: MVPA Judging Standards

Post by Old Pal » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:41 pm

Mike Wright wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:04 pm
Hi Everyone,

Update.

Well this Covid stuff has evidently caused a delay in most everything in the publishing industry. The GPW Restoration Standards is moving forward, however at a mush slower rate than under normal times. Hopefully when things open up further things will speed up!
Any update?

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Re: MVPA Judging Standards

Post by Moultz » Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:12 am

any updates gents

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Re: MVPA Judging Standards

Post by ddoyle9570 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:38 pm

I can speak to this, to a certain extent.

Assuming that you are referring to the meticulously crafted volume put together by Mike Wright and his friends - that is the GPW Restoration Guide - work on this is progressing nicely.
We have three more licensing agreements/contracts to finalize. This very day I made some progress with one of these, who advised me that the formal agreement should be on my desk mid-March (processes that are always slow are made even slower due to first Covid, plus the current weather conditions). I expect the other two to be finalized well before then, at which time the process will move VERY quickly.
To a large extent, publishing a book is much like restoring a vehicle - there is a great deal of very meticulous work that must be done, work that the person observing the finished product will likely never notice and will be completely unaware of - and all of this takes a great deal of time, but once all the component are finished, final assembly moves rapidly.
While I've never restored a GPW (although I have restored other HMVs), I have had over 150 books published - and be assured this project is moving at a typical pace for such a broad, complex book with so many contributors.

Best wishes,
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