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Re: Zeph's '42 Ford GPW

Post by Gbcygnet » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:05 am

Two behind I think. I recognize a scratch on the bumper. :D
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Re: Zeph's '42 Ford GPW

Post by rgtb » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:28 am

Page 100! 😄
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Re: Zeph's '42 Ford GPW

Post by zepher11 » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:05 pm

rgtb wrote:
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Page 100! 😄
Fitting that Gordon put us over 100 pages!
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Re: Zeph's '42 Ford GPW

Post by Gbcygnet » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:53 am

I’m sure there are many people on this forum who are very grateful to Zeph for the effort he has put in to creating this thread. We’ve all learned a lot I’m sure. I know I have.

I don’t wish to hijack the thread so try not to add too much to it but will admit, Zeph, that I’m going to do what you said you managed to resist during the rebuild..........

Image[url=https://flic.kr/p/2jn3w2J]

And yes, there’ll be a water bucket too!
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Re: Zeph's '42 Ford GPW

Post by awddouglas » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:20 am

never realised that the jerry can holder was dated!

I too resisted the urge to plant a can on the back.....it was difficult but i was trying to do a factory level resto of a VEP.

For the same reason i didnt refit the tombstone blackout light that was on the jeep when i got it. I realise its a rare part and a key element of my jeep's history, but it didnt have one when it left the factory and i like the clean look of the original.

I didnt fit a trailer socket either even though i have a trailer........
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Re: Zeph's '42 Ford GPW

Post by Johan WILLAERT » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:58 am

awddouglas wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:20 am
never realised that the jerry can holder was dated!
It's not a date but rather a stock number…

Recently there has been some debate whether or not these numbered brackets are actually WW2 or later...
They are described in a 1944 publication, but no confirmation the number was already on the bracket during the war...
Personally I believe they are correct for retrofitted JC holders until proven otherwise...
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Re: Zeph's '42 Ford GPW

Post by awddouglas » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:04 am

thanks for the clarification johan.

it's a shame the manufacturers picked a stock number that can easily be read as a date.... 42-8-22.......

did they have no consideration for the fact that people in 75 years who may be restoring something that was only designed to last weeks might find this confusing?

anyone would have thought there was a war going on :D :D
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Re: Zeph's '42 Ford GPW

Post by zepher11 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:59 am

Gbcygnet wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:53 am
I’m sure there are many people on this forum who are very grateful to Zeph for the effort he has put in to creating this thread. We’ve all learned a lot I’m sure. I know I have.

I don’t wish to hijack the thread so try not to add too much to it but will admit, Zeph, that I’m going to do what you said you managed to resist during the rebuild..........

Image[url=https://flic.kr/p/2jn3w2J]

And yes, there’ll be a water bucket too!
HI Gordon,

I like the look of the Jerry can with the water bucket. Makes me cringe just a tad, but I don't begrudge what anyone does to their own vehicle. I would suspect that a great number of Script GPW's and Willys', for that matter, were retrofitted for a Jerry can during the war. It'll look great. Plus, if you actually carry some petrol, it will be a great addition for a long excursion.

Post some photos when your're completed. I know we would all like to see it. Measure twice and drill once! 8)
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Re: Zeph's '42 Ford GPW

Post by Gbcygnet » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:22 am

If the rear panel was original I wouldn’t do this, but as it isn’t I don’t think I’m doing any harm. If the next keeper doesn’t like it they can take it off and fill a few holes.

I think I’ve got all I need now; some scraping and painting to do.

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Re: Zeph's '42 Ford GPW

Post by Johan WILLAERT » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:27 am

My August 1942 GPW was originally delivered without the JC holder…
During its life the 4 holes for a JC holder were drilled and a reinforcing plate was put INSIDE the rear panel to hold the bracket.
No reinforcing plate on the outside and no strap bracket either.
Still had the original 6 footman loops for the top...

If you're putting on the JC holder, I would suggest only drilling the 4 holes... will look more original than with the added plate or strap bracket..

The Ordnance Technical Bulletin prescribing the modification of adding a JC bracket to early Jeeps only lists the four bolts and nuts needed and doesn't mention the plate or strap bracket either...
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Re: Zeph's '42 Ford GPW

Post by Gbcygnet » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:38 am

Hi Johan

Thanks for that. Food for thought. I know it won’t be original but I think I’ll end up fitting it all. The can certainly isn’t original for a Jeep but it is 1942!

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Re: Zeph's '42 Ford GPW

Post by zepher11 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:42 am

Looking forward to see the completed project. The original rear panel had both a Jerrycan holder and a trailer socket installed, so it did evolve back in the day.

I don't believe it had strap bracket IIRC. Your assembled parts look nice and ready to go!
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Re: Zeph's '42 Ford GPW

Post by Gbcygnet » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:03 am

Thanks Zeph

The four small f bolts were in the box of bits you posted, so I’m only doing this to use them up :D

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