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M151 a1 rear shock

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:17 pm
by Range117
Thanks for letting me join today. I recently sold my ‘53 m-37 & my ‘46 cj2a ( downsized) so I could purchase a ‘ 69 ford mutt. Always wanted one and love it! One problem though was a passenger side rear shock that was making one heck of a rattle so I ordered a new shock along w the bushings & bolts.
Well after 2 days of trying to get the top bolt out with no luck ( pb blaster, tapping, etc) the bolt still wouldn’t come out so... stupid me used a sawzall to cut bolt. Well guess mistake cause the ( what I thought was a washer on nut side looks like it was a permanent “ spacer/bushing”?
Well it didn’t help as bolt although loose still won’t come out. Sorry for being long in the word but here’s the question, can I buy that “ spacer/ bushing? Looked online but can’t find. Thanks & don’t kick me out yet!

Re: M151 a1 rear shock

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:20 pm
by Rickf
I think what you cut was a part of the body/ mount for the shock since the mounting for the shock is nothing more than the bolt as far as I remember. What it sounds like to me is that the bolt is rusted into the shock bushing. When you cut you needed to have the blade tight against the rubber bushing so as to only cut the bolt. You will probably need to do the same on the other side of the bushing but make sure you are ONLY cutting the bolt! If that piece you cut off is part of the mount as I think it is you will somehow have to weld it back on there, I don't envy you.

Re: M151 a1 rear shock

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:31 am
by Range117
Kinda what I thought, thanks. Don’t envy me either.

Re: M151 a1 rear shock

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:43 am
by muttguru
Hi Rick and Range.....
it may be that Range has cut part of the spacer sleeve (item 9) or the spring washer (item 11). If that's the case, he is fortunate. If he has cut the shock mounting bracket itself....he needs to get that fixed professionally. If the shock absorber tears loose during a turn........it's cheerio !

Ken
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Re: M151 a1 rear shock

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:00 am
by Range117
Ken, thank you for your reply & diagram.
I cut the bolt ( 12 ) and the outer washer ( 9 )
Dropped. The diagram doesn’t show what I think is a sleeve that was attached to (9) and what I believe (12)is stuck inside to. I have tried everything & (12) is still stuck. Guess @ this pt. Go ahead & cut other side of (11) at least on o/s next to bolt head? Thanks,
range

Re: M151 a1 rear shock

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:58 am
by Rickf
Range117, I for some reason thought you were working on an A2! If you are working on an A1 then Ken is right and you should be able to replace that washer with one from just about any shock absorber kit. Any shop probably has a few old ones laying around since new shocks all come with new washers. Sorry for the scare. :roll: :? :oops:

Re: M151 a1 rear shock

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:24 am
by Jeeps4Brains
he needs to get that fixed professionally.
As in welded back in well? Not a bubba job.

Re: M151 a1 rear shock

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:36 am
by Range117
Thanks for yalls help. Will get to it this afternoon & will see..

Re: M151 a1 rear shock

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:18 am
by Range117
Right! Understood.

Re: M151 a1 rear shock

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:25 am
by Rickf
Jeeps4Brains wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:24 am
he needs to get that fixed professionally.
As in welded back in well? Not a bubba job.
He has an A1 so what I said is moot point, they are different.

Ranger, the sleeve you are talking about is probably the sleeve that goes through the shock bushing and that is what the bolt is frozen on. That is not going to come out and should be part of the new shock. The part that fell out might or might not come with the new one but if it is not chewed up to bad it can be painted and reused. I would try to cut the bolt on the inside of the mounting bracket unless you think you have enough movement to get the stub that will be left to slide out.

Re: M151 a1 rear shock

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:28 pm
by Range117
Finally! After many bi metal steel sawzaw
Blades, I got smart &bought a Diablo carbide
Tip blade.. butter!
Now, could anyone help me find the washer/
Spacer that I so nicely chewed in half?
Thanks again for the reply’s & cant wait to drive it again ( with no rattle I hope)

Re: M151 a1 rear shock

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:32 pm
by Range117
Last one, TNJ Murray to the rescue I hope.

Re: M151 a1 rear shock

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:16 am
by tankjeepman
In the future you might try the one method that will always loosen rusted nuts & bolts. Heat nut or bolt red hot (propane torch (good), Presto lite (better), acetylene (best). Quence with water (careful). Repeat as needed. The heat will turn the rust to dust. The expansion and contraction will break the rust bonds. Get a heat shield that plumbers use and be careful what is behind or around the area you are heating. I have had nuts rusted solid eventually come loose using this method.

Re: M151 a1 rear shock

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:06 am
by Range117
Thanks for that helpful tip! I’ll be tackling the other rear shock soon🥴

Re: M151 a1 rear shock

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:13 am
by Rickf
If it is a steel nut I usually try to remove while nut is still glowing, That usually work but if that does not work then the heat and cool method will do the trick since it also creates a bit of clearance between the parts as they expand and shrink at different rates. If you have a rusted in bolt then the heat and cool method is especially helpful since heating the bole expands it in the hole and when it cools there is a bit more room. This works well when working with a broken bolt in an engine block where there is no way you are going to heat the block enough to do any good.