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Additions to my motor pool

Post by m-11 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:24 am

I know you guys like pictures so without further ado I have added two of these vehicles to my motor pool. Believe it or not the beat red one does run. I was surprised when I opened the hood to see the condition of the engine. Enjoy!
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Re: Additions to my motor pool

Post by 70th Division » Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:34 pm

Hello M11,

Congratulations !!!!!!
Those are awesome additions to any Motor Pool :D :D :D :D

The old one looks easily restorable, and the restored one looks outstanding !!!

2 beautiful jeeps, ready to go back on patrol in Big Sky Country :D :D :D

What are the antifreeze dates ?
It looks like 1970 on one ?

It is nice to think they were still in active service in the 1970's !!

Best Regards,
Ray

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Re: Additions to my motor pool

Post by m-11 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:14 am

70th Division wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:34 pm
Hello M11,

Congratulations !!!!!!
Those are awesome additions to any Motor Pool :D :D :D :D

The old one looks easily restorable, and the restored one looks outstanding !!!

2 beautiful jeeps, ready to go back on patrol in Big Sky Country :D :D :D

What are the antifreeze dates ?
It looks like 1970 on one ?

It is nice to think they were still in active service in the 1970's !!

Best Regards,
Ray
I think the antifreeze date is 78

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Re: Additions to my motor pool

Post by 70th Division » Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:37 am

Hello,

That is great !
The jeep likely was still in service into 1978 or longer .
That is interesting because on my M38A1 it has a military engine rebuild tag that is from I think 1978 also.
The bumper markings on it I believe are from a Wisconsin Army National Guard Engineering unit.
I got it from Utah, where it spent all of its time after the Army as a surplus vehicle sent to a local government agency that never used it.
It has zero rust !

Keep us posted on your jeep !!

Best Regards,
Ray

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Re: Additions to my motor pool

Post by m-11 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:57 am

Ray,

I found something interesting on the red on. The data plate S/N is 40732, DOD 2/53 and the patent tag on the rear wheel well is MD 38078. The battery box cover is the early style with thumb screws but the front fenders are later style. Are both tag number suppose to match?

Thanks!
Tim

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Re: Additions to my motor pool

Post by JMZ421 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:43 am

Not Ray, but, the serial numbers on both are supposed to match. John

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Re: Additions to my motor pool

Post by 70th Division » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:58 pm

Hello Tim,

I believe they are supposed to be originally matching, but could have been switched during a rebuild program
by the government.

The fenders likely were swapped around at some point,
Joe Gopan would be the top M38-a1 expert here on the G in my opinion.
I hope he sees this post, but you can also PM him here as well.
He is very active here.
He did mention that if you look on the rear fender data plate, turn it over, as they sometimes marked the original USA hood number on it.
Possibly the body was swapped out, and the original data plate set was attached.

Post a picture of your battery tray cover, and the fenders as well, and maybe something can be determined from that ?

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Ray

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Re: Additions to my motor pool

Post by m-11 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:03 pm

70th Division wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:58 pm
Hello Tim,
I believe they are supposed to be originally matching, but could have been switched during a rebuild program
by the government.
The fenders likely were swapped around at some point,
Joe Gopan would be the top M38-a1 expert here on the G in my opinion.
I hope he sees this post, but you can also PM him here as well.
He is very active here.
He did mention that if you look on the rear fender data plate, turn it over, as they sometimes marked the original USA hood number on it.
Possibly the body was swapped out, and the original data plate set was attached.
Post a picture of your battery tray cover, and the fenders as well, and maybe something can be determined from that ?
Best Regards,
Ray
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Re: Additions to my motor pool

Post by 70th Division » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:34 pm

Hello Tim,

One thing I can say is that Jeep looks rust free !!!

There are vendors that carry the special battery cover bolts to attach the lid.
It looks like it will be a great restoration !

Hopefully Joe can add some commentary here !


Ray

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Re: Additions to my motor pool

Post by Joe Gopan » Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:10 pm

Is the Grill hinged? Are there two rods that go from firewall to the top of the grill? Your body appears to be the early style that requires the early fenders that bolt to the frame. The early fenders do not have the cover plates, they will have the exposed diagonal seams.
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Re: Additions to my motor pool

Post by m-11 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:35 pm

1 Grille is hinged
2 No rod support for radiator
3 The fenders don’t have diagonal seams so I assume they are a later replacement


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