What type of aircraft is this?

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What type of aircraft is this?

Post by doctordirt » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:35 pm

My father was an officer in the Merchant Marine and made many trips hauling supplies to war zones in WW2. Sunk by the U-162 in the Caribbean in August 1942 but survived.

Pictures we found in the family archives show aircraft as deck cargo on at least one of his journeys. The aircraft have roundel insignia so I assume they were for the RAF. The notes on the back indicate they were taken in India, but except for pre-war voyages, my father did not sail to India after we declared war. He did make voyages to Egypt and hauled German and Italian POW's on the return trips to the US.

So, wondering what aircraft we were providing the British early in WW2?

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Re: What type of aircraft is this?

Post by Joe Gopan » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:02 pm

Beaufighter, United Kingdom.
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Re: What type of aircraft is this?

Post by jonggd » Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:49 pm

I don't think that is a beaufighter, my first thoughs was it's a Bristol Beaufort, but the engine nacelles don't look right.

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Re: What type of aircraft is this?

Post by jonggd » Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:54 pm

On further investigation I think its a Boston, that's the British name given to the Douglas Havoc.

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Re: What type of aircraft is this?

Post by Joe Gopan » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:38 pm

It does look more Boston than Beaufighter. I agree with you.
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Re: What type of aircraft is this?

Post by Chuck Lutz » Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:49 pm

Revenge was pretty quick for the U-162.
She sank the WEST CELINA on 8/14, the MOENA on 8/24, the THELMA on 8/26 and the STAR OF OREGON on 8/30.

Four days later near Trinidad, she was sunk by three British Destroyers with the loss of two crew but forty-nine sailors were picked up and sent to the US for internment.

Which ship was your father's?
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Re: What type of aircraft is this?

Post by clintm20 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:09 am

Boston 100%.
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Re: What type of aircraft is this?

Post by Scoutpilot » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:01 am

A20 Havoc/Boston

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Re: What type of aircraft is this?

Post by doctordirt » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:52 pm

To all of you, Thanks So Much!
Every piece of information in my father's story is invaluable to me. He's been gone since 1956, a casualty of WWII but many years after it ended.

I always assumed it was a US produced aircraft since the this voyage had begun in the US in 1941 and did not stop in the UK.

jd
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1944 Willys MB Litter carrier
1944 Willys MB-SOLD
1942 Bantam Trailer
1945 Bantam Trailer
1946 CJ-2A-SOLD
1964 M151A1-SOLD
1967 M416 Trailer
1972 M151A2
1986 M1008-SOLD
1952 M43 Ambulance-SOLD
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