1945 MB 423000(+/- 1000)

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1945 MB 423000(+/- 1000)

Post by Millerdvr » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:01 pm

!945 MB, owned by the US forest service in Montana, used to pull a tourist trolley around Helena Montana until was purchased by my father in 1964, My father then proceeded to remove all the BO lights seat cushions and anything else that was not needed and then PAINTED IT WHITE!!! Had the transmission upgraded to a T-90 in 1965 as well as 12 volt. He drove it until he left for college and sold it to my Grandfather, my Grandfather used it for hunting until the early 80's when he passed away. It then sat in his companies yard until late 80's when it was reacquired by my Father. It then sat underneath our deck covered with a tarp until around 1995 when I dug it out and have been slowly bringing her back since. It has original body, engine as far as we can tell(MB563342). My father said that when he bought it in 1964 it never had any data plates, it did have the frame tag until a towing accident where it cane unhitched while being flat towed and the tow bar folded underneath the jeep causing some serious damage to the frame horns. It has cj wheels, I have a brand new set of 600-16 NDT tires just waiting to be mounted and am in the process of making a spare tire holder from Jon's Jeep draw prints.
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1945 MB- Body#206494 Engine#MB563342 Serial # 423000(+/- 1000)
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Re: MB 206494

Post by Millerdvr » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:07 pm

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1945 MB- Body#206494 Engine#MB563342 Serial # 423000(+/- 1000)
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Re: MB 206494

Post by macaddict23 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:24 am

Millerdvr wrote:!945 MB, owned by the US forest service in Montana . . .
I'm sure you meant 1943, right?
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Re: MB 206494

Post by tamnalan » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:00 am

Nice jeep, and I like the Montana and family connection! Our MB came from the Lewistown area - the Army trained B-17 pilots in Lewistown for a few years during the war and we're pretty sure the jeep was used there. My father found our MB when he was scouting a friend's ranch for CJ-3A parts.

Agree - yours should be an early 1943 model, given that frame number. Our MB (201453) has several parts stamped with late Dec '42 dates, including the engine block's oil pan surface and the pinion gears from both differentials.

Does yours have split-back seats? External-band park brake? Road draft tube (vs pcv valve)? No under-hood grease gun bracket? No mounts for windshield gun bracket? These are some characteristics of ours - wonder if yours is similar. Ours even came with a slat-grill type autolite speedometer, but we suspect that was a service replacement.
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Re: MB 206494

Post by macaddict23 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:34 am

tamnalan wrote:Nice jeep, and I like the Montana and family connection! Our MB came from the Lewistown area - the Army trained B-17 pilots in Lewistown for a few years during the war and we're pretty sure the jeep was used there. My father found our MB when he was scouting a friend's ranch for CJ-3A parts.

Agree - yours should be an early 1943 model, given that frame number. Our MB (201453) has several parts stamped with late Dec '42 dates, including the engine block's oil pan surface and the pinion gears from both differentials.

Does yours have split-back seats? External-band park brake? Road draft tube (vs pcv valve)? No under-hood grease gun bracket? No mounts for windshield gun bracket? These are some characteristics of ours - wonder if yours is similar. Ours even came with a slat-grill type autolite speedometer, but we suspect that was a service replacement.
I have MB200366; only 1087 Jeep from yours! Yes, mine came with split seats and external-bank parking brake
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Re: MB 206494

Post by tamnalan » Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:59 am

Neat! What do you have for a DoD?
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Re: MB 206494

Post by Millerdvr » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:27 pm

macaddict23 wrote:
Millerdvr wrote:!945 MB, owned by the US forest service in Montana . . .
I'm sure you meant 1943, right?

Doing the research, the numbers come out as first week of march 1945, as I'm told. Has the under hood lubrication order holder, late model light switch, two hole spare tire carrier and foot mounting holes. short needle speedo, large mouth tank/seat.
If the engine was replaced at a later date then it would be a 43, but if the engine and body have stayed together then it comes out as dod 0f march 1st -7th 1945.

It displayed all the features(at least the ones still on her) of a 45 rather than a 43 and since the day my family acquired it all the paperwork has stated it as a 1945.
1945 MB- Body#206494 Engine#MB563342 Serial # 423000(+/- 1000)
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Re: MB 206494

Post by Millerdvr » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:34 pm

tamnalan wrote:Nice jeep, and I like the Montana and family connection! Our MB came from the Lewistown area - the Army trained B-17 pilots in Lewistown for a few years during the war and we're pretty sure the jeep was used there. My father found our MB when he was scouting a friend's ranch for CJ-3A parts.

Agree - yours should be an early 1943 model, given that frame number. Our MB (201453) has several parts stamped with late Dec '42 dates, including the engine block's oil pan surface and the pinion gears from both differentials.

Does yours have split-back seats? External-band park brake? Road draft tube (vs pcv valve)? No under-hood grease gun bracket? No mounts for windshield gun bracket? These are some characteristics of ours - wonder if yours is similar. Ours even came with a slat-grill type autolite speedometer, but we suspect that was a service replacement.
That is a great story! What condition was your MB in when you picked her up? I am still amazed how well mine looks after all those years of sitting outside, Montana never used road salt and the weather is relatively dry so vehicles survive really well up here.

Not sure what split back seats means/looks like? I will have to check the transfer case for the parking brake, not sure if the t-case was original to the jeep or came mated up with the t-90 when that was installed, it has the under hood grease gun bracket and has the gun mounts on the windshield frame.
As long as I have had her it has never had the crossover tube to the carb. right now she has the later model pot belly oil bath cleaner and I have a length or radiator hose as my x-over tube :oops:
1945 MB- Body#206494 Engine#MB563342 Serial # 423000(+/- 1000)
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Re: MB 206494

Post by tamnalan » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:26 am

Ours was pretty rust-free too. Some driver-side hat channel rust, and the fuel sump was rusted. Otherwise pretty good. The years of ranch use had beat the sheet steel though - lots of dents.

Split-back seats: there is a seam at the top middle of the driver and front passenger seat frames. (The top tube of the seat back frame is not one continuous piece.)
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Re: MB 206494

Post by Millerdvr » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:01 am

Thanks Alan. I will have to have a look.
1945 MB- Body#206494 Engine#MB563342 Serial # 423000(+/- 1000)
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Re: MB 206494

Post by Millerdvr » Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:29 pm

Just looked and I don't see a seam on my seat frames so I would say they are not split back seats.
1945 MB- Body#206494 Engine#MB563342 Serial # 423000(+/- 1000)
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Re: 1945 MB 423000(+/- 1000)

Post by WILLYS45 » Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:53 pm

Good to see another Montana JP, mines in Great Falls.
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