Ford GPW 1942
- aamir567
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Ford GPW 1942
Dear Friends
I restored this GPW in 1990. Although i tried to restore it at it original specs but still i changed few items like Wheel Rims etc.
I want ur expert commets on this GPW.
Thanx
Aamir Malik
I restored this GPW in 1990. Although i tried to restore it at it original specs but still i changed few items like Wheel Rims etc.
I want ur expert commets on this GPW.
Thanx
Aamir Malik
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- aamir567
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I would like to know that which parts r original n which parts needs attention.
I have action pics too, which i will post later.
I used to drive this Ford GPW 1942 on different offroading tracks. I am more than satisfied with the performance.
Kindly guide me , how to put Roll cage & seat belts so that the original look remains the same or it looks cool.
I have action pics too, which i will post later.
I used to drive this Ford GPW 1942 on different offroading tracks. I am more than satisfied with the performance.
Kindly guide me , how to put Roll cage & seat belts so that the original look remains the same or it looks cool.
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well, depending on when in '42 she was built, it may have come from the factory without a blackout drive light. Only one (driver's side) would have been installed later. It probably didn't come from the factory with provisions for the fuel can either.
The lift rings on the front bumper are from either an M38 or an M151, and the extra off-road lights aren't original.
The rims (you already mentioned it) are from an M151 jeep, and I'm surprised that they fit.
The seats should be covered in OD canvas, and wonder if the frames are correct.
Now, if you want to restore it, that's one thing, if you want to put a roll bar in it, that's another. A roll bar isn't right. The U.S. Army didn't put roll bars in jeeps at all until much much later. I wouldn't be able to begin to tell you how to put it in to make it look right, as it wouldn't be right. How you'd make it look "cool" is strictly up to you, but I've seen several of these modified with roll bars, and never thought any of them looked cool. Seat belts were also never installed by the Army. They can be done, but require adding reinforcement and extra holes.
The lift rings on the front bumper are from either an M38 or an M151, and the extra off-road lights aren't original.
The rims (you already mentioned it) are from an M151 jeep, and I'm surprised that they fit.
The seats should be covered in OD canvas, and wonder if the frames are correct.
Now, if you want to restore it, that's one thing, if you want to put a roll bar in it, that's another. A roll bar isn't right. The U.S. Army didn't put roll bars in jeeps at all until much much later. I wouldn't be able to begin to tell you how to put it in to make it look right, as it wouldn't be right. How you'd make it look "cool" is strictly up to you, but I've seen several of these modified with roll bars, and never thought any of them looked cool. Seat belts were also never installed by the Army. They can be done, but require adding reinforcement and extra holes.
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Aamir...unfortunately you have to really butcher your jeep to install a reliable roll-cage on it....you can't bolt it to the TUB ane expect it to work on the trails in your photos....it needs to be attached to the frame...
My suggeston is to buy a Mahindra and modify it and keep your relatively original WWII jeep as-is and take off the stuff not original to it.
There is the story of the guy who (against the suggestions of others) installed a V-8 and better Dana axels in his WWII jeep, a different transmission and transfer case, he lifted the tub to get clearance for HUGE tires, added huge shocks, a roll cage and then when he went out he twisted the frame so badly he had to replace the frame....in the end after he rebuilt it TWICE, he did not have a WWII jeep anymore he had a tub with a roll-cage, a bolted in set of Recaro seats, no rear seat, a V-8 and different driveline, a Chevy power-steering column.....but he painted it GLOSS OD if I remember correctly.
He ruined a decent GPW/MB to learn what he was advised on more than one occasion because he thought it was "cool"....
Now the jeep in your photo is doing quite nicely going up the track with a full load....if the Off Road club requires a roll-cage...then find a CJ or Mahindra and modify it....the WWII jeep just does not have the bones to handle all those add-ons.....it will do the job, but not with all the modifications off-roaders seem to "need"....
Hope this is not too harsh a post, but if you leave it as it is.....it has a certain "curb appeal" even the biggest, baddest Off-Road vehicles will NEVER have....your jeep helped to win World War II.
My suggeston is to buy a Mahindra and modify it and keep your relatively original WWII jeep as-is and take off the stuff not original to it.
There is the story of the guy who (against the suggestions of others) installed a V-8 and better Dana axels in his WWII jeep, a different transmission and transfer case, he lifted the tub to get clearance for HUGE tires, added huge shocks, a roll cage and then when he went out he twisted the frame so badly he had to replace the frame....in the end after he rebuilt it TWICE, he did not have a WWII jeep anymore he had a tub with a roll-cage, a bolted in set of Recaro seats, no rear seat, a V-8 and different driveline, a Chevy power-steering column.....but he painted it GLOSS OD if I remember correctly.
He ruined a decent GPW/MB to learn what he was advised on more than one occasion because he thought it was "cool"....
Now the jeep in your photo is doing quite nicely going up the track with a full load....if the Off Road club requires a roll-cage...then find a CJ or Mahindra and modify it....the WWII jeep just does not have the bones to handle all those add-ons.....it will do the job, but not with all the modifications off-roaders seem to "need"....
Hope this is not too harsh a post, but if you leave it as it is.....it has a certain "curb appeal" even the biggest, baddest Off-Road vehicles will NEVER have....your jeep helped to win World War II.
Chuck Lutz
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Nice to see that WW2 jeeps are being cared for world wide!!! As Chuck so rightfully pointed out, putting a rollcage or bar on this GPW would be all wrong!
Chuck, you may know that Mahindra, being Indian, may possibly not be the vehicle of choice in Pakistan. Not more than Tupolevs are the aircraft of choice of U.S. Airlines...
Aamir, do you have a photo of under the hood?
Erik
Chuck, you may know that Mahindra, being Indian, may possibly not be the vehicle of choice in Pakistan. Not more than Tupolevs are the aircraft of choice of U.S. Airlines...
Aamir, do you have a photo of under the hood?
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Aamir,
I think it's not a bad thing that you are using your jeep as you see fit. It's good to know that at 65+ years old, they will still 'wheel pretty good.
I agree with Chuck and the others too, about adding a roll cage not being the best thing for the originality of the jeep. I wonder about this too...
If you are hitting trails that are truly bad enough to need a cage, the rest of the jeep may not handle them either, and you, the driver will not be the only "part" of your jeep prone to becoming "broke". I can't imagine these frames taking too much abuse before they twist, and the axles and housings are very frail to today's standards either.
If you wheel your jeep carefully on trails that you and it can hanlde, there's not a need for a cage.
If you insist on a cage, switch your frame to a MD Juan frame and then weld up your cage on the OUTSIDE of the tub. It'll look funny, but it will give you some added protection against body dings and act like rock sliders too. Then come up around the tub and overhead for the crush protection for you.
Just a thought if you HAVE to do all that stuff. You probably do have the COOLEST jeep in your club!
I think it's not a bad thing that you are using your jeep as you see fit. It's good to know that at 65+ years old, they will still 'wheel pretty good.
I agree with Chuck and the others too, about adding a roll cage not being the best thing for the originality of the jeep. I wonder about this too...
If you are hitting trails that are truly bad enough to need a cage, the rest of the jeep may not handle them either, and you, the driver will not be the only "part" of your jeep prone to becoming "broke". I can't imagine these frames taking too much abuse before they twist, and the axles and housings are very frail to today's standards either.
If you wheel your jeep carefully on trails that you and it can hanlde, there's not a need for a cage.
If you insist on a cage, switch your frame to a MD Juan frame and then weld up your cage on the OUTSIDE of the tub. It'll look funny, but it will give you some added protection against body dings and act like rock sliders too. Then come up around the tub and overhead for the crush protection for you.
Just a thought if you HAVE to do all that stuff. You probably do have the COOLEST jeep in your club!
Luke Sparks
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- aamir567
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I restored it in 1990. It took me almost one year to restore.
I am using my Ford GPW 1942 on extreme offroading on its original specs.
So far so good. My Ford GPW compete with all the 4x4's in our club ( Islamabad Jeep Club ) Pakistan.
Its performance is also up to the mark.
Rally organisers some time ask for Mandatory Roll bar & Seat belts.
I think i use it for Offroading events within our club n should not take part in competetions where roll bar is Mandatory.
Aamir Malik
I am using my Ford GPW 1942 on extreme offroading on its original specs.
So far so good. My Ford GPW compete with all the 4x4's in our club ( Islamabad Jeep Club ) Pakistan.
Its performance is also up to the mark.
Rally organisers some time ask for Mandatory Roll bar & Seat belts.
I think i use it for Offroading events within our club n should not take part in competetions where roll bar is Mandatory.
Aamir Malik
It is always Man behind the wheels.
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