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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Ted Gates » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:50 pm

Made it to floor and 3 readings from my understanding.

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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Lazboytt » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:29 pm

Still shows in the house. Talked to state rep earlier today which said it should be on the floor tomorrow

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(owfxcwrzpj1tmhcpwrioaqzo))/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2018-SB-1040

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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Lazboytt » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:30 pm

The bill has now passed the house and will go for printing and signing.


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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Ted Gates » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:49 am

Awesome.

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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Kevin Lockwood » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:33 am

S.B.1040 has now passed the House 106 yeas and 3 nays. Now the bill moves to the governor for signing. We urge everyone to contact Governor Rick Snyder at governorsoffice@michigan.gov or by phone at 517-373-3400 to offer full support of S.B. 1040 which will allow for registering of surplus military vehicles here in Michigan.
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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Old Dodge Guy » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:53 am

looks like the Governor vetoed the bill.
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Legislation (S.B. 1040) that would have allowed for the registration of a “military surplus vehicle” as an “historic vehicle” was vetoed by outgoing Governor Rick Snyder. “Historic vehicle" means a vehicle that is over 25 years old, owned solely as a collector's item and for participation in club activities, exhibitions, tours, parades, and similar uses, including mechanical testing, but is not used for general transportation. Use of the vehicle during the month of August in each year is considered an exhibition.

In announcing his decision to veto the legislation, Governor Snyder explained that military surplus vehicles were not manufactured for on-road use and should be restricted to off-road purposes.

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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Lazboytt » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:02 am

Hello that is correct. Most likely due to lame duck season. We have a new senator that will be submitting a new bill. Plus we have the new governor so keep our fingers crossed.

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Post by Old Dodge Guy » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:14 am

Legislation (S.B. 1040) that would have allowed for the registration of a “military surplus vehicle” as an “historic vehicle” was vetoed by outgoing Governor Rick Snyder. “Historic vehicle" means a vehicle that is over 25 years old, owned solely as a collector's item and for participation in club activities, exhibitions, tours, parades, and similar uses, including mechanical testing, but is not used for general transportation. Use of the vehicle during the month of August in each year is considered an exhibition.

In announcing his decision to veto the legislation, Governor Snyder explained that military surplus vehicles were not manufactured for on-road use and should be restricted to off-road purposes.

Thank you for voicing support on this bill.
AGAIN.....I SEE NO PROVISION FOR EVERYDAY USE CATEGORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
I CAN NOT STATE THIS ENOUGH!!!!
I can not and .....WILL NOT...... support ANY bill, anywhere, any time, that does not cover this. I personally will work against any bill that does not cover everyday use and urgently ask all of you to do the same. Please let SEMA understand this also.......I DO!!!!!


Also, please note this.....
In announcing his decision to veto the legislation, Governor Snyder explained that military surplus vehicles were not manufactured for on-road use and should be restricted to off-road purposes.
....this phrase is gaining usage all over the USA with the various DMV's. We are all looking at a huge problem in the future. Unless we all work together, we will lose the usage of our vehicles in ANY form. Our Jeeps, Dodges, GMC's and others all could be lost. Just because they are ex-military vehicles and now for "off road use only".

MVPA, please pay attention to this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Lazboytt » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:20 am

The bill was designed for regular on road use. understanding the motor vehicle code act and how information flows through the Michigan vehicle code act is the key. That is the same concern that the secretary of state had during the transportation committee meetings when they tried to oppose the bill, stating this would allow for registration however. The new revised bill also incorporates the information under the motor vehicle definition which will also guarantee on road used registration. The bill had multiple functions seem does the new bill which has multiple functions. Just because you see a definition under historic does not mean other portions do not flow through the motor vehicle code act.


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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Old Dodge Guy » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:34 am

Thank you for the quick reply.
No offense is meant to you here, but I am a blunt person. I mean no ill will, or bad intention, but I am from Missouri. Please show me that in writing. Having worked some with the "congress critter" crowd, unless I see it in writing, with an endorsement from the Pope or Higher, I won't believe it. I MAY not believe it then. Way to many times I have been told that something is the way described, only to find out ....too late....that I have been sold a fairy tale.
Seeing is............closer.............to believing. Sort of :lol:
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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Lazboytt » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:40 am

It’s completely understandable. No offense taken. Just because a bill is designed one way when it gets in the process other people get their hands on things and could try to change things as is what happened with the previous bill but we insured that it still keept it’s original intensions, specifically with two different definitions. This go-round we incorporated also into the motor vehicle definition for registration purposes as a safeguard that way nobody can Try and come up with their policies and procedures yet again. This way it is in law once passed to safeguard the drab green community in Michigan.


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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Kevin Lockwood » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:10 am

I am sorry to hear this. I know the folks in Michigan devoted hundreds of hours to get this passed.
Old Dodge Guy: I appreciate your passion for this and agree that legislation can be slippery. Please know that the MVPA has been active in winning against rogue DMVs in Kansas, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana. The last three within this past year.
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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Thomas Romine » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:21 am

Kevin Lockwood wrote:I am sorry to hear this. I know the folks in Michigan devoted hundreds of hours to get this passed.
Old Dodge Guy: I appreciate your passion for this and agree that legislation can be slippery. Please know that the MVPA has been active in winning against rogue DMVs in Kansas, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana. The last three within this past year.
WE NEED MEMBERS!
Thousands of HMV owners sit on the sidelines with their head in the sand. They can afford a $100.00 minimum for one fill up of fuel; but will NOT join the MVPA because of some little excuse or another. The fewer members we have the more likely we will lose more of these fights.
WAKE UP FOLKS!
Kevin Thank You

This fight is not over in Michigan. We are going keep working on this, but everyone needs to step up and make their voices heard. If they don't, nothing is going to change.

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Re: Hummer titling

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Re: Hummer titling

Post by gerrykan » Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:44 pm

In Missouri, the Legislature can override a Governor's veto with enough votes, I don't know if this is an option in Michigan, or if there is enough support to do so.
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