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Hummer titling

Post by Thomas Romine » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:11 pm

Michigan has begun canceling titles for hummers even if they were issued years ago.

We have a State Rep. That is willing to help with getting this changed. What we would like to know is: What states are issuing titles.

If you live in a state that you know for sure are issuing titles for hummers please post what state you are in.

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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Retired War Horses » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:55 am

Can you cite where this has occurred? Or what DMV is saying the reason is?
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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Thomas Romine » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:58 am

This occured in Michigan. They are quoting the government planet web site.

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Post by Retired War Horses » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:13 am

Thomas Romine wrote:This occured in Michigan. They are quoting the government planet web site.

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Not saying it didnt happen....but this is just here say. Is this person a "G" member?
Not challenging you sir, just waaaay to many times you hear an internet " I heard about a guy who" story.
I like facts and better yet, the actual affected party....
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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Ted Gates » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:25 am

Steve, this is NOT hear say. We are documenting the event and coordinating are efforts to hopefully repeal this. This affects ALL legally MI titled hmmwv's, regardless of year sold. Ted


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Post by Retired War Horses » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:29 am

Ted Gates wrote:Steve, this is NOT hear say. We are documenting the event and coordinating are efforts to hopefully repeal this. This affects ALL legally MI titled hmmwv's, regardless of year sold. Ted

Roger that Ted....just looking for some instances and affected parties.
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Re: Hummer titling

Post by gearhead » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:01 am

Correct title for post "HMMWV" titling, as I am pretty sure all "Hummers" came titled.

Document, document, the ones that were titled in the first batch a few decades ago, had legitimate titles.
Need more info on the reason the state thinks they are no longer legal.
As said could not be good for all of us regardless of the year and era of our HMVs.

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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Kevin Lockwood » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:58 am

The MVPA has been notified of this issue and is looking for details. Less said is good advice though. It's like letting the prosecutor sit in on your conversations with your attorney.
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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Thomas Romine » Thu Apr 21, 2016 1:10 pm

Gents

We currently have a two state elected officials that are willing to help with this issue. What they would like to know is what states are issuing titles. That is all. Please post any stated that you know are missing titles or send me a pm if you would like.

All we need is what state. We will research how they are doing it. We should have a date for a hearing soon for the first title that has been cancelled. We want to be ready.

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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Kevin Lockwood » Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:40 am

Should have worded my post better. No intent to silencing the exchange of information. I am all for aggressively pushing back against rogue bureaucrats. Just consider the content and purpose of the post.
Kansas and Wisconsin faced title surrender issues.
Tom I PMd my cell number.
We need get a group via email and hash this out.
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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Thomas Romine » Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:47 am

Kevin

Thank you. I will attempt to word things better.

We have had a further development today. I am working on getting the facts now and hope to have for our phone this evening.

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Re: Hummer titling

Post by undysworld » Sat Apr 23, 2016 4:57 am

Kevin,
Tom (Romine) and I talked last night. If I understood correctly, they were asked to surrender their titles too. I forwarded him the MIL-SPEC document and links to the appeals here. This just got brought up on Steel Soldiers too.
A few weeks ago, I was in contact with Jwade from S.S. (Operations Manager, Government Services for IronPlanet/GovPlanet). He made it sound as if it's Michigan's issue, not federal.
**** Correction, I JUST saw the letter from MI, and they DO want the titles back.
At least the folks in MI are getting going on this early.
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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Old Dodge Guy » Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:24 am

undysworld wrote: A few weeks ago, I was in contact with Jwade from S.S. (Operations Manager, Government Services for IronPlanet/GovPlanet). He made it sound as if it's Michigan's issue, not federal.
Sorry I can't help with the list of states, but can you contact Gov Planet and ask them what states accept their paperwork for titling. I thought if you had the form 97, that was all you needed.
Has anyone heard yet WHY they are taking the titles back? Is it the "off road use only" clause that has been retracted and the state has just not caught up with that news? State agencies always work off last years news, not current, unless you can PROVE it to them the info has changed.
Will Gov Planet help out?
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Re: Hummer titling

Post by undysworld » Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:04 am

ODG,
This vehicle was sold by the Govt. prior to Gov. Planet taking over sales. So I doubt that they can shed much relevant light on things.
From what I understand, this is the only vehicle so effected, at least yet.
I am currently trying to find out what a legitimate HMMWV VIN number would be, to make sure this vehicle is legit.
This 1990 HMMWV has an 11-digit VIN recorded on the Title. I have not yet verified the VIN on the actual vehicle. A "standard" VIN is 17-digits. This one reads: 63H8F****** (I have substituted ****** for the last numbers in his VIN)
Can anyone who actually owns a titled 1990 HMMWV tell me how many digits there are in the VIN on their truck and on their title?
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: Hummer titling

Post by Old Dodge Guy » Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:02 pm

Anything new to tell us? If info sensitive at this point, a PM will do. Just curious now. Was this just a one time event, or a whole class of vehicles. Thanks
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