Serial number year and dod question

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Re: Serial number year and dod question

Post by Kendall » Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:12 am

Except some states (Kansas for example) titles these jeeps with the engine serial number. Look at the flat spot of the engine block behind the water pump and see what number is there.
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Re: Serial number year and dod question

Post by markpickens57 » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:18 am

i found the plate behind the passenger seat and it was MC53133. Can you help me to determine the year. The title says it is a 1954 willys

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Re: Serial number year and dod question

Post by D Pizzoferrato » Wed Dec 06, 2023 4:09 am

In your first post, you said "On the title it has a serial number of 11025". That is more than likely a 1950 manufacture date serial number. Now you found the Patent Plate with a serial number of MC53133, which is a 1952 M38 serial number. It can't be a 1954 and be an M38. What model Jeep is it? It's time for pictures. As it sits now, and being from Ohio, there is no way that I would go anywhere near the Clerk of Courts office to try to transfer that title until you clear this up. If the Jeep is from out of state, you will need a serial number verification before you even think about doing a title transfer. What number is on the data plate on the dash? Also look at the front top of the engine block above the water pump (in the event that the jeep was titled with the engine number). You need to find that 11025 number and direct the examiner doing the verification only to that number.
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Re: Serial number year and dod question

Post by JMZ421 » Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:20 pm

Until you load the pictures, at least tell us if it is Flat fender or does it look like a CJ with round fenders. Flat fender looks like a WW2 Jeep. I bet it's a 1952 M38 flat fender, as mentioned by David. Does the hood have a registration #'s? You obviously would have noticed that though. It should begin with 209. Post pictures!! John

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Re: Serial number year and dod question

Post by markpickens57 » Thu Jun 06, 2024 4:45 pm

It has been a while but i got the jeep back to Ohio and got the new title with the serial number MC53133.
I got it running and i have been able to drive it. I want to restore it back to original. My question is that i know it is a M38 but could it be a M38A1.
based on what i can find about the serial number it is a 1952 willys.

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Re: Serial number year and dod question

Post by Ron D » Fri Jun 07, 2024 1:54 am

markpickens57 wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2024 4:45 pm
My question is that i know it is a M38 but could it be a M38A1.
The M38 is a Willys model MC, and serial numbers are prefixed with "MC".
MC53133 is a M38 serial number.

The M38A1 is a Willys model MD, and serial numbers are prefixed with "MD".
The M38A1 is an entirely different (and unmistakable) body style than the M38.

Google for photos of each jeep model.
Here's one (M38 on the left, M38A1 on the right): http://www.vintagemilitarytrucks.com/M3 ... -Texas.JPG

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