Dutch NEKAF M38A1 Project in USA !

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Re: Dutch NEKAF M38A1 Project in USA !

Post by AFM38A1 » Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:33 pm

What I know about Dutch Jeep history

Circa 1996, I would occasionally get a copy of the UK magazine Land Rover Owner International. About that time, lots of surplus military vehicles, from various nations, were coming in to the market following the end of the "cold war". Yeah, right.....

Anyway, a UK dealer had an ad for many Dutch M38A1s, said to be from "war reserve" stocks.
Photos showed completed vehicles (not kits) stacked atop each other.
I actually called one of the dealers, and got a price somewhere in the £4500 range. I contacted a UK farmer friend who could have put it in a container for me, but for some reason,I didn't go through with it.
I think it had something to do with the hassles of importing a Dutch assembled vehicle...even if it was made in Toledo.

Si, if I saw an ad, no doubt others did too. Perhaps even American military who brought one back.

I might have the old ad around somewhere.
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Re: Dutch NEKAF M38A1 Project in USA !

Post by Klaas » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:42 am

Most of the Dutch Nekaf jeeps were pensioned off, when they were replaced in Dutch Military service with LandRover Series III Diesels in the '80s.
You could get one from the surplus dealers or even buy direct from the Ministry of Finance who were selling them off in batches. Prices were in the 3000 Dutch Guilders ( about 1400 Euro's) range at that time for a good one.
I sometimes rode as a passenger in them when I did my National Service in 1978-79. At that time the Dutch Army even had a couple of CCKW353's still in service!
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Re: Dutch NEKAF M38A1 Project in USA !

Post by 70th Division » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:13 pm

AFM38A1 wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:33 pm
What I know about Dutch Jeep history

Circa 1996, I would occasionally get a copy of the UK magazine Land Rover Owner International. About that time, lots of surplus military vehicles, from various nations, were coming in to the market following the end of the "cold war". Yeah, right.....

Anyway, a UK dealer had an ad for many Dutch M38A1s, said to be from "war reserve" stocks.
Photos showed completed vehicles (not kits) stacked atop each other.
I actually called one of the dealers, and got a price somewhere in the £4500 range. I contacted a UK farmer friend who could have put it in a container for me, but for some reason,I didn't go through with it.
I think it had something to do with the hassles of importing a Dutch assembled vehicle...even if it was made in Toledo.

Si, if I saw an ad, no doubt others did too. Perhaps even American military who brought one back.

I might have the old ad around somewhere.

Hello,

That would be great to see the ad picture !!

Pretty interesting !

These are great jeeps !

Best Regards,
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Re: Dutch NEKAF M38A1 Project in USA !

Post by 70th Division » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:31 pm

Klaas wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:42 am
Most of the Dutch Nekaf jeeps were pensioned off, when they were replaced in Dutch Military service with LandRover Series III Diesels in the '80s.
You could get one from the surplus dealers or even buy direct from the Ministry of Finance who were selling them off in batches. Prices were in the 3000 Dutch Guilders ( about 1400 Euro's) range at that time for a good one.
I sometimes rode as a passenger in them when I did my National Service in 1978-79. At that time the Dutch Army even had a couple of CCKW353's still in service!


Hello Klaas,

Thank you for your
Military Service defending
Europe !!

Did you ever get a picture with the Nekaf when you were in the Military ?

That would have been nice to have been aware of those government auctions when these were sold.

It is great that you rode in these jeeps when you were in the Military 😁 !
Even that the GMCs were still in service.

I saw a few of these jeeps still being used by the Dutch Army, and thought that was pretty cool !!

We had signed up for the French Domaines auction magazine, and saw many beautiful French vehicles listed, and pictured for sale at auction.
Jeeps, GMCs, Dodge WCs, trailers, etc.
They even had color pictures !

My brother actually went to an auction on his vacation to France, but it turned out the particualr auction was a "dealers only " auction .
So he saw a lot of great jeeps and trailers, he couldn't bid on any.
My Father and I were hoping he could have gotten 2 jeeps for us at the time, that we could have later driven around the Alsace battlefields.
At least we made the effort to plan a Jeep adventure in Europe.

Now someday, I will ship a jeep over to make the adventure we planned in the late 1990's -2000's.

We did do a similar adventure with a US Army surplus auction in Germany, where we bought a very nice shape VW transporter van, for $700 with bench seats, tan civilian paint , tagged it with US tags, and insured it with ADAC in Germany.
It was like new 😁😁 !!
What a a great summer adventure, we drove it all over Europe, even to beautiful Prague, and Budapest !!

It was awesome, and we sold it to a German friend who put about 200,000 more kms on it with his business.
He sold it a few years ago , and it is still in use in Germany !!

He called it his Bully.


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Ray

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Re: Dutch NEKAF M38A1 Project in USA !

Post by Crosswolf » Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:08 am

Everything about the Nekaf M38A1 at www.crosswolf.nl Including free Dutch and US manuals

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Re: Dutch NEKAF M38A1 Project in USA !

Post by Jon Lewis » Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:40 pm

I saw it posted (very) local to me and resisted the urge to go look. Glad it went to a good home!!
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Re: Dutch NEKAF M38A1 Project in USA !

Post by Apolloblackcat » Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:27 pm

Hi,
Fantastic looking Jeep which has been saved, most of the questions you asked have been answered, maybe you can find my blog of my NEKAF restoration of some use, in regards to other details you may need.

Restored to current state over 14 years and still have bits to do!!!!!
http://m38a1willysjeeprestoration.blogspot.com/

Any other questions do not hesitate to reach out.

Regards

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Re: Dutch NEKAF M38A1 Project in USA !

Post by 70th Division » Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:02 pm

Jon Lewis wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:40 pm
I saw it posted (very) local to me and resisted the urge to go look. Glad it went to a good home!!
Hello Jon,

It will be a good project !

Best Regards,
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Re: Dutch NEKAF M38A1 Project in USA !

Post by 70th Division » Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:05 pm

Apolloblackcat wrote:
Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:27 pm
Hi,
Fantastic looking Jeep which has been saved, most of the questions you asked have been answered, maybe you can find my blog of my NEKAF restoration of some use, in regards to other details you may need.

Restored to current state over 14 years and still have bits to do!!!!!
http://m38a1willysjeeprestoration.blogspot.com/

Any other questions do not hesitate to reach out.

Regards

Nic

Hello Nic,

What a great link to your jeep project, it looks great !!


This will be a nice project, with a nice European connection and history with it, and it was a surprise to find here in Florida.


Best Regards,
Ray


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