62 m38a1 top bow bracket

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Re: 62 m38a1 top bow bracket

Post by Joe Gopan » Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:35 am

Apparantly there is not enough demand for the later front bracket to repro them. I have one sample on my shelf.
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Re: 62 m38a1 top bow bracket

Post by SB5477 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:59 pm

One of the front brackets were missing from my jeep after I handed it over to a guy for matching paint and he misplaced it and found it later (lucky). In the meantime another guy made a nice one for me. Should not be too hard for somebody good with metal work.

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Re: 62 m38a1 top bow bracket

Post by dcartledge » Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:53 pm

Had a local mechanical contractor buddy fab up several - actuallu look pretty good.

Have not installed them yet to see if they work but will soon,
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Re: 62 m38a1 top bow bracket

Post by Joe Gopan » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:16 pm

Does anyone have a set of the late style M-38A1 front bow brackets shown in the previous post for sale? (the type with the folded over top)
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Re: 62 m38a1 top bow bracket

Post by Joe Gopan » Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:02 pm

Will the real M-38A1 top bow arrangement up please stand up. :wink:
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Re: 62 m38a1 top bow bracket

Post by Joe Gopan » Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:09 pm

Those dash board decals are available from Rick Larson. The Drain Plug decal is a NOS from JEEP stock.
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Re: 62 m38a1 top bow bracket

Post by Joe Gopan » Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:58 pm

Any M-38A1 Bow Questions?
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Re: 62 m38a1 top bow bracket

Post by Joe Gopan » Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:07 am

Ben Dover wrote:
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The weight of the canvas holds the bows in place, even with out the canvas the bows will not bounce out of the sockets, there is no need for thumbscrews. The later M-38a1 Body Tubs eliminated the hole in the sides for thumbscrews. As for the late front storage brackets they are an improvement and work just fine while eliminating the chance of losing the thumbscrew. Am sure it you do not trust the two front brackets, that someone will be willing to trade the older thumb screw type.
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Re: 62 m38a1 top bow bracket

Post by Joe Gopan » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:40 pm

Anyone Reproducing the late M-38A1 front Bow Brackets yet?
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Re: 62 m38a1 top bow bracket

Post by Hank Dodge » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:16 pm

I'm looking for a set as well...
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Re: 62 m38a1 top bow bracket

Post by M38A1 MP Jeep » Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:35 pm

Joe Gopan wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:16 pm
Does anyone have a set of the late style M-38A1 front bow brackets shown in the previous post for sale? (the type with the folded over top)
Brent Mullins has them on Ebay - both painter and unpainted.

Unpainted one is titled - Jeep Willys M38 M38A1 NOS Unfinished Rear Bow Bracket G-740 G-758

His seller name is Armytankguy
I am seeking information on M38A1's configured for MP use from 1953-?.

I am also interested in equipment and uniforms worn and carried by MP's during this timeframe.

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Re: 62 m38a1 top bow bracket

Post by Joe Gopan » Fri May 01, 2020 4:37 pm

The pics on this post explain some of the OEM bracket locations on your M-38A1's.
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Re: 62 m38a1 top bow bracket

Post by Joe Gopan » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:44 am

For you new M-38A1 owners, M-38A1 Bow Brackets do have early-late differences.
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Re: 62 m38a1 top bow bracket

Post by dpcd67 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:45 am

I would have bounced your 300 pound advisor right out of the service due to being overweight.
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Re: 62 m38a1 top bow bracket

Post by Joe Gopan » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:27 am

Fat Frank was an advisor to the Army National Guard (he was also one of the founders of the Blue Knights Motorcycle Club) for over 10 years.The pall bearers had a time of it at "Fat Franks' funeral. That's nothing compared to Air Police S/Sgt Gonzales stationed at Dow Field in the mid 60's He was in charge of temporary ID's at the main gate. he was so heavy that they had to wrap him in a sheet and take him to Base Supply to weigh him on a freight scale because he was too heavy for the Base Hospital scale.
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