M38A1 EX Kuwait army

1952 - 1968, M38A1, M170, questions, discussions, regarding anything related to the M38a1 series.
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M38A1 EX Kuwait army

Post by Peer Horn » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:08 pm

I purchased a M38A1 in Kuwait in 1984 I restored it then and used the car as an escape vehicle during the invasion of Kuwait by Iraq in 1990. I then moved to Dubai Where I used the car till 1996. I moved to Australia in 1999 bringing the jeep with me I am now restoring it again and am trying to clarify the year of manufacture. The documentation that was issued by the Kuwait authorities say that it is a 1957 year of manufacture I have checked on the Willys serial number list and I cannot find it.
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Re: M38A1 EX Kuwait army

Post by KiwiMB » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:36 pm

Hi Peer,
check for the chassis number on the left front outer face of the chassis rail just behind the spring shackle. It should start with MD. That number will be one that the experts here can relate to. The number on the patent plate in your picture doesn't seem rtight to me.

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Re: M38A1 EX Kuwait army

Post by Peer Horn » Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:27 pm

The Kuwait authorities disposed of 20 units in 1981. I purchased 2 from the buyer in 1984. All serial numbers start with 57038-10. Serial number stamped on the chassis at the spring hanger back of the right hand front spring and above the bump stop on the rear right hand spring.
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Re: M38A1 EX Kuwait army

Post by KiwiMB » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:35 pm

HI Peter,
have a look on the outward face of the chassis rail (vertical, not horizontal) above the left front spring anchor. If there is no stamping starting with MD then I have no idea.

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Re: M38A1 EX Kuwait army

Post by Peer Horn » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:02 pm

I have followed this thread which has helped a bit viewtopic.php?t=199728


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Re: M38A1 EX Kuwait army

Post by KiwiMB » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:34 pm

Interesting, not surprising that these Jeeps were exported but you would think that they would stay with the standard engine and chassis numbering sequences if only to make identifying parts when buying the parts from the USA.
Anyways, good to see your getting some insights into the year of manufacture.

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Re: M38A1 EX Kuwait army

Post by Peer Horn » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:13 pm

I have found another link which would place it as a 1961 manufactured vehicle http://willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php? ... ic&t=10182

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Re: M38A1 EX Kuwait army

Post by NEKAF4EVER » Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:50 pm

Hi Peer,

Prefix 57048-10 was used for the 6 volt type M38A1's built for Saudi Arabia.
Serial numbers in 1963 started with serial number 11701
Many of those jeeps (at least 100) were exported from Kuwait to Sweden for civil use.
I just checked the Bilregister (Swedish Car Registry): e.g. M38A1 57048-10 11341 was already registered in 1987 (before the Kuwait crisis)

Prefix 57048-08 was used for the 6 volt type M38A1's built for Egypt
Serial numbers in 1963 started with serial number 11101

Prefix 57048-17 was used for the 12volt type M38A's built for Kuwait
Serial numbers in 1963 started with serial number 10001

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Re: M38A1 EX Kuwait army

Post by Peer Horn » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:05 am

It is possible that these cars came from Saudi during operation Vantage in 1961 when Iraq threatened Kuwait. Saudi also supported Kuwait to what extent I don't know.

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