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jeeps with spares in front

Post by Rick O » Sun May 20, 2012 6:34 pm

don't know if this has been posted before, but it looks like the Brits put their spares on the fronts of the jeeps in this Market Garten foto

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Post by SB5477 » Mon May 21, 2012 12:50 am

The Brits in Europe covered up the grille with the spare tire and cut out the grille in Africa...

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Post by Escort » Tue May 22, 2012 1:23 am

It can see on the US Army jeep too.
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Post by Ingo » Thu May 24, 2012 1:30 am

How did they prevent from cooling problems? Or no one thought about TAHT in THAT time???

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Post by Marty, SoCal » Thu May 24, 2012 10:30 am

Germany was pretty cold in late '44/early 45! :wink:

Actually, at slow speeds, it may not be too much of a problem.
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Post by davidh » Tue May 29, 2012 2:09 pm

Rick,

I don't know why, but I'm unable to get the browser to open the photo in your first message.
I don't have this problem f.ex with all the many photos in the WW2 vehicles 36 chain.

Can you pls repost yrs as I collect photos of British jeeps.

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Post by Rick O » Tue May 29, 2012 8:14 pm

I don't know why the link is broke, I don't remember what site I link to, but I think this one will work:

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Post by tipdog » Thu May 31, 2012 9:06 am

A lot of sites have band-width restrictions on "hot" links.

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Post by Rick O » Thu May 31, 2012 9:36 am

Ah. Ok. David, right click on what would be the pic and then you can copy and paste the link and then save the pic
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Post by gerrykan » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:41 pm

Although the spare tire in front was a common British practice (like the jeep center, rear in the photo), Maurice Wilks must have been lurking somewhere near the lads in the foreground. :D

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Post by Ingo » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:25 am

Great Pic!!!
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Post by rhiokobayashi » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:17 pm

its good to see pictures like this keep them coming..our past is very interested,pictures from past give us idea what life they had
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Post by tapeandgauze » Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:44 pm

Thanks for these wonderful images!!

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Post by Bentwood » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:29 am

In the last image I cannot clearly see the beret flash on the far right trooper. Is that SAS? The jeep bears a lot of similarities to the ETO SAS jeeps
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Post by John Neuenburg » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:14 pm

Old thread but worth comments. Yes that looks like an SAS badge. Very obvious these are Special Air Service training for or in France. They started parachuting in small groups deep behind the Normandy lines on 6 June 44 and were equipped like British paratroops. Note the bellows pocket on one trooper's airborne trousers. Berets were standard airborne maroon at the time although some North Africa and Italy veterans still wore the sand colored ones. Jeeps were parachuted to them about three weeks later, and they marauded 100-200 miles behind the lines in many areas interdicting Germans heading for Normandy, blowing up railroads, derailing trains, spotting for the RAF and USAAF. The jeeps had standard British airborne mods like short front bumpers, no side steps, wheel located to the front or the hood, all for making the turn into a Horsa glider at the top of the ramp. And no rear grab handles. Normally a support strut went from front bumper to each fender because they would mount boxes on the fenders. See the cut bumper on the second jeep.

The cut grill was distinctive of the SAS. A mod for the heat in Egypt and Libya, it became a tradition. Turns out the missing slats made it easier to patch bullet and shrapnel holes in the radiator using plastic explosive which they usually had with them. This jeep has a gun pedestal in the usual cowl location. They put twin Vickers Ks there, and two on a pedestal on the rear of the tub. They dotted magazines on the hood and elsewhere on special post brackets. The jeep behind it most certainly has covered twin Vickers on a cowl pedestal, turned toward the driver. The ones on the jeep in the background are facing forward and up. This makes it nearly certain these are not airborne reconnaissance troops, whose jeeps also had airborne mods and they used the Vickers K but only one on a cowl mount and not normally seen with a lot of magazines about. Another SAS giveaway was the gas tank mounted below the gunner seat. That's not the muffler. It was a sectioned standard tank because there is less room there than on the driver side. They wanted more gas capacity because resupply behind the lines was spotty.

This thread is about spares on the front. The Brits had a bracket for supporting a wheel between the frame horns, and one for hood mounting which freed up the bumper area for a big storage crate. Often the SAS made long trips and had to carry a lot. This was when they were changing camp locations or after the Normandy breakout when the lines were fluid, relieving units could make their way to operating areas on the ground and relieved units went the other direction. Same in 1945 when moving into Northern Germany. At that time the jeeps had armored windscreens and armored rear tub.

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