Navy M38 that served aboard the USS Slater (DE766)

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Navy M38 that served aboard the USS Slater (DE766)

Post by NavSecGru Joe » Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:30 pm

Here's some pics of a Navy M38 that served aboard the USS Slater (DE766) that was part of the DiamlerChrysler Corp. traveling 'Jeep' exhibit in Virginia Beach, Virginia in late May 2005. The M38 runs well and is only driven from the trailer to the exhibit area, then back to the trailer for transport to the next exhibit. They travel throughout the US during the summer months. Easy duty for an old retired workhorse!!! Anyone else see the show?

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Post by GalenHorton » Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:38 pm

NICE looking rig. I know this is picky, but would nice if they put the correct rims on it.
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Really Nice

Post by hillbilly21 » Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:17 am

I hope my M38a1 turns out this nice which I know it will... By the way I think the rims look pretty good on that Jeep..............
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Post by kb1zq » Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:19 am

From the information I have heard, "Used extensively in Korea" is a false statement... Primary vehicles there were MBs and GPWs...

Other than that looks good...
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Post by Mike W. » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:13 am

I've never seen a ship's truck marked with Shore Patrol so I find that doubtful, also I doubt that it served 'on' the ship. A ship's truck was kept at it's home port for use when the ship returned there, the only time I could see it actually being on the ship was if it was changing the home port. I know ours was kept at the home port except when we were in the yards, then it was driven up there. Also none of the cans we served with had their vehicles on them when deployed. As usual I think DC has got some of the details wrong. Any detail pictures of the data plates available?

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Post by Dan S » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:55 am

What would be the value of an M38 in this condition? Minus the knowledge of it's particular history.

I just ran across an M38 as clean and neat as this (green, not grey). Would it be worth $8,000 (which, by the way is what it took for me to bring it home!)

Just wondering?

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Post by dave w » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:12 am

The phase , 'All fur coat and no knickers' comes to mind!! ( I suspect you might use the word pantys for knickers.

There seems to be some rust bleeding on most of the joints, and the drivers footwell looks 'Flashed over'.

Is that a swing away rear wheel carrier??
Not much better than chryslers current product range!!

I'd be staggered if any jeep could be said to have served on any ship, I've seen this a couple of time in Europe, the owners have honestly come to believe the stories (fantasies) they tell.

One of the best was a Hotchkiss M201 ( late 50s early 60s) dressed in full US navy trim at Ursel, wings and wheels show in 2004. the owner had full info boards explaining how it served on USS Enterprise ? or some other carrier and had been rebuilt by the US navy in 45. SAD SAD SAD how in desperate need of help.
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Post by dave w » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:32 am

And I've just remembered, a couple of years ago Chrysler were promoting an original jeep, big white star so must have been genuine, over here to the news papers/vehicle mags etc to advertise the 60th aniversery of start of production.
Thing was, that was an M201 , and nobody at Chrysler new, nor did the supposedly informed journlists.
Seems not happy with hi-jacking somebody elses (Willys) kudos they were even out to steal Hotchkiss's!!
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Post by dave w » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:36 am

The more I look at this the more wound up I'm getting......... isn't that the actors of Band of brothers in the back gound !!!, not only are they still in service 6 years after the end of WWII but en-masse they've moved to the marines or at least the navy. Should have handed the uniforms in, the navy does dress smarter.

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Post by Mark Tombleson » Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:26 am

I’m not going to comment on the M38 or its condition… but I’m going to disagree on jeeps serving on ships. There have been several threads with photos of carriers and other ships with jeeps stationed on them.

One MB I know of served on the USS Prairie

http://www.ussprairie.com/

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The jeep was judged at the convention on the USS Hornet in Alameda. I saw photographic evidence and some other documentation that is served on the Prairie.

So, you can argue about the way the jeep is displayed, but please… don’t go speculating about it use.

Oh, most of the time the ships name is on the windshield skin. I agree that Shore Patrol is a poor choice for the name of a jeep that is portrayed as being on ship!
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Post by petesilfven » Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:30 pm

We had three vehicles attached to the USS Galveston. One was a '57 Chevy sedan for the skipper, second a DJ3A Dispatcher for general use, and a VW bus that was used for recreational purposes. We only loaded them aboard when we changed homeport. Shore Patrol vehicles were owned by the Shore Patrol detachment of the port we happened to be in. Our only involvement was to provide shore patrolmen to the detachment in proportion to the number of crewmen on liberty.
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shore patrol

Post by hillbilly21 » Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:37 pm

I have a M38a1 that was used for shore patrol that I am currently in the process of restoreing... It is my understanding that what Mark T. is talking about is 100 % CORRECT... It is also my understanding that there are NOT alot of Military Vehicles being restored to the Shore Patrol originality.. But I could be wrong, I have been before...
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Navy M38 That serves aboard USS Slater (DE766)

Post by Wilwae1 » Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:37 pm

Hello:
The following information came from the Web site WWW.USS SLater.org.

The Ship was Commisioned in 1944 and served in the Atlantic and Pacific then decommishioned in May of 1947 and on March 1 1951 was transfered to the Hellinic Navy and used as a Hellinic Navy Officer Training Vessel till 1991. Greece donated the ship to the Destroyer Escort Sailors Association. The Association donated $275,000 to bring the ship back to New York and was docked next to the Intrepid. October of 1997 the Slater arrived at the Port of Albany New York Where she is today going through restoration.
I am wondering how this M38 got connected to the Slater. Many years ago somebody restored a Jeep For a Fund raising raffle for the ship. I have visited the ship in Albany

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shore is gray

Post by Rich Saylor » Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:52 pm

What- no graywall tires?
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Post by NavSecGru Joe » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:50 pm

I, too, became curious as to the USS Slater history after posting the pictures and found the same link indicating the ship being mothballed in the reserve fleet since 1947 and transferred out of the Navy inventory (in early 1951) to Greece. Looks like the information plate that accompanies the exhibit is NOT accurate. When viewing the exhibit last year, it struck me odd that DiamlerChrysler would allow things like incorrect wheels, lockout hubs, a rear-mounted, swing-away tire carrier, etc. on what would appear to be an historic exhibit. The data plate on the truck didn't look quite right either but I can't recall the details. The attending crew of the exhibit did mention a total restoration being completed by a 'museum' but it was unclear as to the identity of the organization. Nice jeep but not totally accurate.


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