M38, correct fire extinguisher, bracket and mounting place.

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M38, correct fire extinguisher, bracket and mounting place.

Post by Jerseyhawg » Mon Feb 01, 2021 2:23 pm

Ok, there have been many many differant answers regarding the CORRECT fire extinguisher & (decal), mounting bracket and where to mount it. On the M38. I was hoping that there "might be" some new information that has been discoverd and disclosed over the years. Since this question has been asked.
The wealth of information here is astounding. Frankly the best site I have ever been on. As always,, BIG thank you for all your replies.
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Re: M38, correct fire extinguisher, bracket and mounting place.

Post by mdainsd » Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:58 am

Since M38s were not equipped at the factory with fire extinguishers, there can be no "correct" type or location. While there is a set of mounting holes in front of the passenger seat, these are more often associated with the location for the decontaminator.
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Re: M38, correct fire extinguisher, bracket and mounting place.

Post by Ken Perkins » Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:55 am

did a google search on the subject and there's quite a few posts on the subject and nothing concrete as you know...the two locations most often used are on top of tool box next to passenger seat and drivers fender
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Re: M38, correct fire extinguisher, bracket and mounting place.

Post by Joe Gopan » Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:14 am

Check the ORD 8 and ORD 9 for the G-740 JEEP. No Fire Extinguisher is listed, there are rectangular mounting bosses welded just in front of the Tool Box Lid, and the manual indicates they are for a Decontaminator.
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Re: M38, correct fire extinguisher, bracket and mounting place.

Post by JMZ421 » Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:17 am

I searched ebay and finally found a "Heavy Vehicle" type brass extinguisher and restored it. WW2 and I know I found a Korean war era picture somewhere with mounting as I have it, on front fender as seen in this picture. In lieu of drilling holes in the fender, I purchased magnets that fit perfectly in the original mounting holes of the original bracket. Stays on real nice especially with the bottom of the extinguisher sitting on the step. Be careful with what's inside those old extinguishers if you get one. It's just eye candy, no different than the bridge plates that half on this site hate to see on M series. John
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Re: M38, correct fire extinguisher, bracket and mounting place.

Post by Ken Perkins » Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:35 am

I like bridge plates,,,, :D
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Re: M38, correct fire extinguisher, bracket and mounting place.

Post by Jerseyhawg » Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:10 am

Ken Perkins wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:55 am
did a google search on the subject and there's quite a few posts on the subject and nothing concrete as you know...the two locations most often used are on top of tool box next to passenger seat and drivers fender
Yes sir, I did the same google search. And found replies "all over the map". I found a really nice M38. I just want to ad something.
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Re: M38, correct fire extinguisher, bracket and mounting place.

Post by Jerseyhawg » Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:12 am

Ken Perkins wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:35 am
I like bridge plates,,,, :D

HAHA,,funny you said that. I WANT one of those to. And want to ask about EXTRA labeling. Like TP 25 over the front and rear wheels. BIG THANKS for bringing that up....👍
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Re: M38, correct fire extinguisher, bracket and mounting place.

Post by Jerseyhawg » Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:16 am

JMZ421 wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:17 am
I searched ebay and finally found a "Heavy Vehicle" type brass extinguisher and restored it. WW2 and I know I found a Korean war era picture somewhere with mounting as I have it, on front fender as seen in this picture. In lieu of drilling holes in the fender, I purchased magnets that fit perfectly in the original mounting holes of the original bracket. Stays on real nice especially with the bottom of the extinguisher sitting on the step. Be careful with what's inside those old extinguishers if you get one. It's just eye candy, no different than the bridge plates that half on this site hate to see on M series. John
Dam, I need a repro carbine to. Just saw that. I guess I can put a few pictures of the 52 M38 I found. I hope you guys dont mind. I am so giddy, like a kid at Christmas. 🙂
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Re: M38, correct fire extinguisher, bracket and mounting place.

Post by Jerseyhawg » Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:35 am

1952 M38. Might take 3 weeks or so to get here. Closing the deal tomorrow. Plus it has a name. I need to know the etiquette on names, where to put them. Etc. From a former vet that owned it. Before the present owner restored it. Yhe present owner is an Army vet to. Theres so much I want to know, and ask on the M38's now. I hope you guys dont mind the pictures. Sooo many questions.

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Re: M38, correct fire extinguisher, bracket and mounting place.

Post by Jerseyhawg » Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:45 am

JMZ421 wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:17 am
I searched ebay and finally found a "Heavy Vehicle" type brass extinguisher and restored it. WW2 and I know I found a Korean war era picture somewhere with mounting as I have it, on front fender as seen in this picture. In lieu of drilling holes in the fender, I purchased magnets that fit perfectly in the original mounting holes of the original bracket. Stays on real nice especially with the bottom of the extinguisher sitting on the step. Be careful with what's inside those old extinguishers if you get one. It's just eye candy, no different than the bridge plates that half on this site hate to see on M series. John
Why are bridge plates "out of line"? Just curious is all. I guess theres much I need to learn. Thats ok as I am here to learn. And have fun with my new to me M38 that us coming to Jersey soon.

I like car shows, the occasional drive down along the Jersey shore. Coffee runs with my bride and my buddies. Yes sir. The M38 is back into action soon. Even if only civilian thrills.
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Re: M38, correct fire extinguisher, bracket and mounting place.

Post by mdainsd » Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:02 pm

Nothing wrong with bridge plates on an M38. However they should be yellow and they should be the type that lets you change the number.

Looking at your pictures, and without knowing the serial number it appears to be a later production unit, shown by the data plates all being on a master plate. Also it has a late style wiring harness. But it has an early vehicle firewall wiring plate and a very early horn. Just some casual observations. Nice Jeep.
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Re: M38, correct fire extinguisher, bracket and mounting place.

Post by Joe Gopan » Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:33 pm

There is a TM on the later style Bridge plate, it indicates that they are not used on the 1/4 Ton Truck.
I will post the information after I find my copy.
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Re: M38, correct fire extinguisher, bracket and mounting place.

Post by Joe Gopan » Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:33 pm

There is a TM on the later style Bridge plate, it indicates that they are not used on the 1/4 Ton Truck.
I will post the information after I find my copy.
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Re: M38, correct fire extinguisher, bracket and mounting place.

Post by Jerseyhawg » Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:32 pm

mdainsd wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:02 pm
Nothing wrong with bridge plates on an M38. However they should be yellow and they should be the type that lets you change the number.

Looking at your pictures, and without knowing the serial number it appears to be a later production unit, shown by the data plates all being on a master plate. Also it has a late style wiring harness. But it has an early vehicle firewall wiring plate and a very early horn. Just some casual observations. Nice Jeep.
Thank you for your observations and compliment.
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