jeep dilemma

1950 - 1952, M38, questions, discussions, regarding anything related to the M38.
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Re: jeep dilemma

Post by Joe Gopan » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:36 pm

M-38 does require a little more TLC and skil to maintain, but cared for properly can be just as reliable as the much simpler CJ-3A. I would be just as comfortable in either. M-38 is heavier than the CJ, and the difference is noticeable.here are the Net Weights for MB, M-38, M-38A1, and CJ3A.

MB-------2450 Lb.
M-38-----2625Lb.
M-38A1--2690Lb.
CJ-3A----2203Lb
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Re: jeep dilemma

Post by roughneck20 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:59 pm

now im curious to know where that extra 420 lbs is from
1950 CJ3A being converted to an M38 (CJ38)

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Re: jeep dilemma

Post by Joe Gopan » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:27 pm

Frame is beefed up some, and the 24Volt stuff, 7.00-16 Wheels, extra wiringm heavier lights, Exhaust, and all those 1/4" bolts onthe floor pan, 24 V instruments, larger gas tank, heavier radiator, Engine brackets, glove box, spare tire bracket, lifting shackles, misc brackets for the top, and more. :wink:
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Re: jeep dilemma

Post by 64 Eeyore » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:52 am

I purchased a 1952 M38 that had been turned in to a CJ3A, sorta. Nearly everything that was military that could be unbolted had been. The cut outs on the right side of the hood had been welded in. The tail gate was gone and sheet metal welded in its place. There was no engine or radiator. A Chevy 350 had been in the engine bay, the fire wall had been hacked and a 12" hole cut in the hood for the air cleaner. Original motor mounts cut out. Saginaw steering installed with an unknown steering column and an after market steering wheel. The wheels did not match, none were original. The tool box was gone and a gas tank was in its place. The windshield was for an arctic top.

I was looking for a flat fender project when I found this Jeep. I did not restore it as an M38, I made it into a usable Jeep.
It now has a 3A hood and windshield. There was no left gas tank and now has one from a CJ2A, the right one stayed, there is a fuel switch on the floor. The engine is now a 2.3L 1976 Pinto. The T90A transmission needed rebuilt and is now a T90C.
It is fun to drive and we enjoy taking it on day trips and Jeep runs in the Black Hills and to the FCT in Colorado.

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Re: jeep dilemma

Post by dpcd67 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:46 pm

M38 is my favorite Jeep to drive, more solid and heavier, than others. But also, the hardest one to restore by far, due to all the 24 volt stuff and all the fording plumbing.
Also, vacuum operated carburetors are the devil's curse. When they work, they work well; but are much harder to fix than the mechanical type.
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