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hood numbers??

Post by Gary Turman » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:59 am

I'm ready to stencil my 68 A1. It has a replacement hood that was nos so no original numbers. I have no idea where to start on figuring out a hood number. Would like to at least get in the ball park and do everything I can to make sure what ever I use isn't already on someones hood. Any guidelines that would help?
1941 Dodge WC-7 Command Car
1942 Ford GPW
1968 M151-A1
1967 M416
1945 Gemco 1/4 ton trailer
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Re: hood numbers??

Post by markrdje » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:09 am

It will be on the data plate.I'll see if I can find a pic
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Re: hood numbers??

Post by markrdje » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:47 am

[attachment=0]#2 M51A1 DATA PLATE.png[/attachment[attachment=0]HOOD NUMBER.png[/attachment I am trying to find a better explanation. Search the web for M151 data plate info
I don't know how to post it on this site This is a partial pic of data plate
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Re: hood numbers??

Post by Rickf » Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:13 pm

The hood number is the same as the manufacturers number on your data plate. Now, if you have a replica data plate with a guessed upon number then I would advise against using it out of concern it could pop up on a database as in use and then you have TWO impounded vehicles and the other guy is gonna be real pissed!!!!
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Re: hood numbers??

Post by hambone » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:12 pm

Ken(muttguru) said they changed the number sequence in 1968.


In 1968, a new numbering system was introduced wich incorporated a "Year of Delivery" into it.... as per 02A 12368 - 12345. (a reversal of the WWII system that began with "20").
"02" again meant 1/4-ton truck, the "A" was used as part of an alphabetical sequence, the "123" would be followed by "124" etc, but the "68" stayed the same all that year. The letter used would change to the next-in-sequence once the numbering reached "999". Example 02A 999 would be followed by 02B 001. The actal year-of-delivery would change, but the changeover could result in one vehicle with hood number 02D 99668 being followed by 02E 99769. as long as you remember that the last two digits were "the year", it was a straightforward system, and for mutt researchers, it was THE BEST numbering system.
When the first A-Z alphabetical sequence was used up, a second letter was added, as per 02AB 12370 - 45678 (70 being the year of delivery).
The "45678" was the MFR Serial Number of that specific vehicle, followed, as you'd guess, by 45679 for the next vehicle etc.
A typical hood number would appear as 02GM 12370 (the second sequence of numbers did not appear on the hood but did appear on the dataplate).
In mid-1973, with the introduction of the emission control systems, the numbering changed yet again, this time to the 6-letter+digit system.
Instead of vehicle size and type being designated as "02" for jeep-type trucks, the new system used "NB", (Gama Goats were "NG" etc).
This system remains in place to this day . the combination of weight-class (NA, NB etc) along with the use of of (at first, numbers), then a combination of numbers and letters, followed by a combination of letter x letter x letter results in a possible combination of thousands of vehicular issues per type classification.
Does this make sense

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Re: hood numbers??

Post by Gary Turman » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:01 pm

So my data plate is a repo that has been stamped by previous owner except it has no inspection stamp. The contract number on it is: DAAE06-68-C-0001 I have no idea if this is correct. Does it look lagit for a 68 A1?
1941 Dodge WC-7 Command Car
1942 Ford GPW
1968 M151-A1
1967 M416
1945 Gemco 1/4 ton trailer
US Army 1979-1984
Houston Police Officer 1984-2016 (Retired)

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Re: hood numbers??

Post by markrdje » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:59 pm

I would imagine the repos plate came about because the original one was missing.If this is an irrelevant post the admin ref can delete it.
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Re: hood numbers??

Post by Gary Turman » Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:12 pm

markrdje wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:59 pm
I would imagine the repos plate came about because the original one was missing.If this is an irrelevant post the admin ref can delete it.
While it is a repo plate the information stamped into it might be correct. That's what I'm trying to figure out.
1941 Dodge WC-7 Command Car
1942 Ford GPW
1968 M151-A1
1967 M416
1945 Gemco 1/4 ton trailer
US Army 1979-1984
Houston Police Officer 1984-2016 (Retired)

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Re: hood numbers??

Post by hambone » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:53 pm

Does your plate number have the 1968 number sequence? 02A,02B etc..., Send Ken(muttguru) a PM, I bet he will help you out with the number. Does your jeep have a BUDD tag on the firewall under the hood?

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Re: hood numbers??

Post by Gary Turman » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:12 pm

yes the budd is N*84826
1941 Dodge WC-7 Command Car
1942 Ford GPW
1968 M151-A1
1967 M416
1945 Gemco 1/4 ton trailer
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Re: hood numbers??

Post by Rickf » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:59 am

That is not the correct format for a Budd tag number. If that is what is on the Budd tag then it has been changed to match the hood. The Budd tag would have a 5 digit number with no letters. And this number is NOT the vehicle serial number. It is a body number for the assembly line and as such it can be repeated later on in the run. It is only for tracking the body by the assembly plant.
1964 M151A1
1984 M1008
1967 M416
04/1952 M100
12/1952 M100- Departed
AN/TSQ-114A Trailblazer- Gone

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Re: hood numbers??

Post by Gary Turman » Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:41 pm

Sorry, typo it reads, ORD*8754459
BUDD S/N* 84826
1941 Dodge WC-7 Command Car
1942 Ford GPW
1968 M151-A1
1967 M416
1945 Gemco 1/4 ton trailer
US Army 1979-1984
Houston Police Officer 1984-2016 (Retired)

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Re: hood numbers??

Post by markrdje » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:39 pm

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The guy who sold me this 151 had put A2 front fender halves on to make it look like an A2, I made headlight guards out of metal rods/strip of metal
The numbers came from data tag along side the steering wheel, which were wore off alot due to age.
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