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Ha ha excellent,i was wondering what you meant and re red my post..feathers still intact..
I take it the adjustable bolts on you headlight buckets are still adjustable>?
Slowly getting there, still need to send the engine off and manifolds skimmed.etc etc.
I take it the adjustable bolts on you headlight buckets are still adjustable>?
Slowly getting there, still need to send the engine off and manifolds skimmed.etc etc.
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Have not determined that yet. Should look soon. Thanks for asking.BATMOBILE1 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 12:03 pmI take it the adjustable bolts on you headlight buckets are still adjustable>?
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Regarding buckets, I think at least on this one the adjustments will work fine. Need to clean up the inner ring.
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Does anyone have any images of how the body is mounted to the frame using the 4 rubber pads, three springs, 2 wooden blocks and the 4 bolts of 3 different sizes?
If I understand it correctly, the wooden blocks go down over the front two mounting wings. Two rubber pads go on top of them and the other 2 pads go on top of the rear mounting wings. The bolts with large washers go through the cab from the top, through the wood/rubber pads and out the bottom.. The springs go on the long bolts, under the mounting wings with a washer, lock washer and nut. The Right Front bolt is fatter (5/8) and shorter and gets no spring, just washer, LW and nut.
I'll try and mock this up and post a pic without the cab on for some comments.
If I understand it correctly, the wooden blocks go down over the front two mounting wings. Two rubber pads go on top of them and the other 2 pads go on top of the rear mounting wings. The bolts with large washers go through the cab from the top, through the wood/rubber pads and out the bottom.. The springs go on the long bolts, under the mounting wings with a washer, lock washer and nut. The Right Front bolt is fatter (5/8) and shorter and gets no spring, just washer, LW and nut.
I'll try and mock this up and post a pic without the cab on for some comments.
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You have to love the delivery companies and the post office. Sometimes you just have to laugh. I purchased this from VPW and they did a great job of marking and packing, but alas. On a good note, Steve and Jens at VPW are always great about taking care of their customers. I have to say they have made this restoration much easier.
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Hi Oz,17thAirborne wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:07 pmCleaning up some punch out items and working on the body
1. I finally got around to ordering a fan belt. I had a Gates B44 in the pile o' parts, but it was really way too small. I estimated a B48, and it was just too large. I settled on a B46 and it fit juuuust right. I should have asked Goldie Locks first.
2. I began working on the hitch. I removed the two broken rivets and took measurements for the angle bracket that fits underneath. It's at the fab shop getting holes drilled.
3. I took the brake pedal to the welder and had him braze an extension on the end to match the clutch pedal and drilled a spring retention hole in it to match the one that was broken off.
4. I am working on the cab in sections. I blasted, sanded and primed the front portion. Will need to do some more dolly and hammer works before starting on bondo on the top and rear. Slow but progress none the less.
fan belt.jpg
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brake pedalspring hole.jpg
body work 1.jpg
Just thought it would be worth mentioning that the foot brake lever on the winch model doesn't have the lower spring lever arm hole,and i think i remember your truck was at some point fitted with a winch..! The part numbers are different one has a 1 after the part number and the other has a 2.if you check the manual this is correct.what part number did you have on your lever?
I only realised this today as i had the 2 different levers on my garage floor and spotted the difference.i don't know where the spring goes on the lever for the winch model yet..?
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32 Heavy Regt RA,57 Bty D droop 1985-1990.
M38 1952 ,restoration project
Dodge 1/2 ton WC-24 Chassis WC-6 body..combo.
Dodge 1951 M43 ,SOLD
Harley Davidson WLA.type IV. SOLD
32 Heavy Regt RA,57 Bty D droop 1985-1990.
M38 1952 ,restoration project
Dodge 1/2 ton WC-24 Chassis WC-6 body..combo.
Dodge 1951 M43 ,SOLD
Harley Davidson WLA.type IV. SOLD
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Mine actually has a -3 number. I need to do some research. it might be a 3/4 ton pedal. The winch was added later and not original to the wc.
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Its been a while since I posted. Our home went on the market last week and we have been having 1 or 2 showings every day which cut into WC fun time. I did manage to get the rear bottom seat frame support rail added. I will add a 1/8" steel angled stiffener just behind the channel and flush with the cab floor. This will provide extra support for the cab mounting bolts given the years of stress on the old mounting holes, and provide a method for attaching seat belts if desired. I will weld 4 bolts to the steel so that seat belts can be attached to the stiffener to provide an added margin of safety if needed. During show, the belts can be tucked behind the seat bottom out of view.
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Sorry its taken so long to say thank you Ernie.Ernie Baals wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:59 amHi ANDY
The frame number is on the drivers side frame rail, facing out in front of the shock absorber
Ernie
Not the best at this modern technology.
Im finding it very difficult to locate a reliable spares supplier, even emailed Midwest Military and Vintage Power Wagons neither responded.
Found a post where a priced list of spares was displayed so there must be a supplier out there.
Could you tell engine model i should have, engine number is D4217707, being stripped down this week so will need rebuild kit.
Any assistance you can provide will be most appreciated.
Many Thanks Andy
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Hi Andy
You have a 1942 dodge car motor
IF your truck is a WC12, it should have a T211 motor
The engines them selves are pretty much the same.
You have a 1942 dodge car motor
IF your truck is a WC12, it should have a T211 motor
The engines them selves are pretty much the same.
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Finished the cab body work and after a 220 wet sanding I shot the primer in two coats. Will get some more pics after another 600 wet sand and the OD paint.
It is not a perfect job with a few wavy lines here and there and not everything dollied out and cleaned up. I could probably put another 100 hours into it and it still would not look factor-ish, especially the floor.
I would not recommend a curved metal project for a first attempt at body work. THe compound curves and the areas that have a double pannel behind them make hammering out dents a challenge for the first timer (like me)
Okay, so it will have the resident "character" of an Army truck with a few miles on int. I am a bit disheartened that I could not get the cab to be more pristine, but for me the lesson learned:
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Start with the best condition, most complete MV you can find for the first project.
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It is not a perfect job with a few wavy lines here and there and not everything dollied out and cleaned up. I could probably put another 100 hours into it and it still would not look factor-ish, especially the floor.
I would not recommend a curved metal project for a first attempt at body work. THe compound curves and the areas that have a double pannel behind them make hammering out dents a challenge for the first timer (like me)
Okay, so it will have the resident "character" of an Army truck with a few miles on int. I am a bit disheartened that I could not get the cab to be more pristine, but for me the lesson learned:
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Start with the best condition, most complete MV you can find for the first project.
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That looks great!!
Don't sell yourself short
They weren't that pretty from the factory and i bet yours in nicer!!
Don't sell yourself short
They weren't that pretty from the factory and i bet yours in nicer!!
Rip Dad 1/22/24 to 12/21/11
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I will always love and miss you.
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Thanks Ernie, you restore my confidence and drive. Every time I looked at it I did not want to work on it. It's a mile stone for me and once mounted on the frame I can turn to the wiring harness.Ernie Baals wrote: ↑Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:14 amThat looks great!!
Don't sell yourself short
They weren't that pretty from the factory and i bet yours in nicer!!
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My old floor board insert was probably not original. It had been cut a few times and modified for the PTO. I used the cut out in the floor to estimate the measurements of the board.
width: 17 1/4" (I can make it a bit shorter once I test fit the kick panel)
length: 31 7/8"
radius of corners 2"
notches to accommodate sheet metal overlap at front: 4 1/4" x 1/8"
I had to build a recess in the bottom to allow space for the two bilts that fasten the lower kick panels to the floor. They stick up slightly in the floor board groove.
The screws that fasten the floor board to the body panel are 1/4-20 and I purchased in 1" length. I used flathead machine screws and will recess them into the wood to make them flush.
Can anyone measure the two cutours for the transmission and the 4WD/Parking Brake levers. Please provide length and width and distance from nearest corner.
That would be a great help as my take out panel is not correct.
width: 17 1/4" (I can make it a bit shorter once I test fit the kick panel)
length: 31 7/8"
radius of corners 2"
notches to accommodate sheet metal overlap at front: 4 1/4" x 1/8"
I had to build a recess in the bottom to allow space for the two bilts that fasten the lower kick panels to the floor. They stick up slightly in the floor board groove.
The screws that fasten the floor board to the body panel are 1/4-20 and I purchased in 1" length. I used flathead machine screws and will recess them into the wood to make them flush.
Can anyone measure the two cutours for the transmission and the 4WD/Parking Brake levers. Please provide length and width and distance from nearest corner.
That would be a great help as my take out panel is not correct.
Oz
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It;s not original Oz, But i cut my floor board just to the left of the shifter
That way if you have to get to the battery you do not have to fight the entire floor around all the handles
That way if you have to get to the battery you do not have to fight the entire floor around all the handles
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Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
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they are insured……but not everyone
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I will always love and miss you.
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