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Re: Restoring WC12 W-231808

Post by Peterdodge6volt » Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:32 pm

Hi OZ
Nah it's on the correct side.
Blackout tail,stop is on right side and red stop/tail and black out tail is on left side.
I am a little curious that your light are mounted on the wood instead of mount on the bumper bolts next to it.

You are quicker than me :D

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Post by Ernie Baals » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:32 am

Hi Peter
The tail lights all mount on the wood on the 12 tons
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Re: Restoring WC12 W-231808

Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:11 am

Peterdodge6volt wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:32 pm
Hi OZ
Nah it's on the correct side.
Blackout tail,stop is on right side and red stop/tail and black out tail is on left side.
I am a little curious that your light are mounted on the wood instead of mount on the bumper bolts next to it.

You are quicker than me :D

Cheers Peter
Thanks for posting the light data :)

I'm hoping to get to the cab soon so I can hook up the remaining engine accessories and start it up
I mounted them based on the TM images as well as an image from Daveyboy's take off sub frame.
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Re: Restoring WC12 W-231808

Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:11 am

Ernie Baals wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:32 am
Hi Peter
The tail lights all mount on the wood on the 12 tons
Ernie
Tanks Ernie :)
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Post by Dozerman51 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:54 am

Looking good on the wood subframe. Say, how many carriage bolts are you using to secure the bedwood and wood subframe to the chassis frame? I have seen a VC 1/2 ton PU that used 4 on each side. From what I have been told, the WC used only 3 per side. Keep up the good work and hopefully, your move is a smooth one. :D

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Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:09 am

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Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:54 am
Looking good on the wood subframe. Say, how many carriage bolts are you using to secure the bedwood and wood subframe to the chassis frame? I have seen a VC 1/2 ton PU that used 4 on each side. From what I have been told, the WC used only 3 per side. Keep up the good work and hopefully, your move is a smooth one. :D
Thanks for the encouragement.

I bought the frame from MVP. There was a bolt hole for each of the 4 cross members, so 8 total. The carriage bolt that is on the rear (#4 member on the driver side has a long sleeve that connects the upper hole with the lower one, so It takes a really long bolt. I used 10" (think 9 1/2" is required, but could not find. The rear horizontal member is drilled at the ends, but looks like it only is attached to the longitudinal members with a 90 degree brace.

That was referring to the long rails on either side, 8 total. I have not gotten to the bed wood issue, nor the side panels. :shock:
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Post by Peterdodge6volt » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:20 pm

Oh ok sorry
I didn't know they tail lights on 1,2 ton bolt on wood, I seen a few early 1,2 ton in Australia where bolt on bumper like the later WC.
I called my friends and just realise why it's was bolt on bumper, it's has to be 45 degrees angle for small trucks and big semi trucks to see the brakes brakes light in Australia, if the person want to get his first time registered and inspections see the tail light not 45 degrees to be seen on the road, the inspections will tell the owner lights must be 45 degrees if the owner says yes will fix that, once he past and ignore the inspections and Leave the tail light where it is and few weeks later owner driving the beauty dodge on the road and the police will pull him over and tell the owner tail light is not 45 degrees and will get a ticket. It's only in Australia. All semi truck drive like crazy in Australia. And now on TV news everyday is semi truck accident on free way and round about.

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Post by Dozerman51 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:49 pm

<t>About those carriage bolts, my T-211 frame serial 8676966 has the 8 bolt holes drilled in the frame. The T-215 frame, serial number 81523533(WC-21 open cab Pick up frame) only has 6 bolt holes drilled through the frame. I wonder how that came about? I know the parts book calls for 8, but the T-215 is original and it sure does not look like those holes were welded up. Hey Ernie, I know you are on here a lot, what’s the story? Looks to me like those 2 holes that are on the frame opposite each side of the fuel tank would cause problems if trying to remove the pick up box from the frame. How would you get to the nuts with the fuel tank so close to the frame? You would have to drop the tank to get to them. Something doesn’t add up. I had used only 6 carriage bolts on the T-211 frame also.

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Post by Ernie Baals » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:05 pm

It is only 6 bolts that go through
I think the other 2 are left over from civilian production
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Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:30 pm

Looks like I have 2 extra. It sure makes the sub frame seem solid :)

Can someone confirm the rear cross beam is attached flush to the end of the long beams
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Post by Dozerman51 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:31 pm

Thanks Ernie for the clarification. Like I said, I did see a nicely restored open cab VC where they had installed carriage bolts and washers etc. I must admit, it did look more symetrical with the 4 bolts on each side than with the 3 bolts on each side. :D

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Post by Dozerman51 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:36 pm

Ozzie,
Like I said, if you ever need to remove the pick up bed as a whole unit, those 2 bolts will be a b.... to remove. The gas tank will be in the way. I would venture a wild guess that other folks have put those 2 bolts on their trucks, but again, I guess it was not original to the trucks.

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Post by Dozerman51 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:40 pm

Yes Ozzie. Flush with the 2 runners along each rail. :D

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Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:42 pm

Dozerman51 wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:49 pm
Looks to me like those 2 holes that are on the frame opposite each side of the fuel tank would cause problems if trying to remove the pick up box from the frame. How would you get to the nuts with the fuel tank so close to the frame? You would have to drop the tank to get to them. Something doesn’t add up. I had used only 6 carriage bolts on the T-211 frame also.
I had to loosen the tank and slide it one way and then the other. Even doing that it was a tight fit trying to get the washers and nuts on. Took a while, but worked. Would be easier to install the beams before the tank.
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Re: Restoring WC12 W-231808

Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:24 pm

I finally broke the ice on the cab. I removed the rear window guard and the window. I was not relishing this task as 77 years of God's glue melded the screws to the surrounding metal. I used a metal drill and drilled out the center of the screw and then a screw extractor. Even drilling deep, the head still broke off leaving me with a hollow screw. I'll just drill these out and work a different angle on the attachment.

I then took out the inner frame and the glass. It was fairly easy despite the added goo, or probably a replacement glass pane and some household caulk. :P
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