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Re: Restoring WC12 W-231808

Post by 17thAirborne » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:45 pm

The motors, KSB 450 do not appear to be the correct models. The operate handle does not line up with the hole in the cover regardless of whether they are installed up or down, left or right.
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Post by 17thAirborne » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:05 pm

I retrieved my lower pintle hitch plate from the machinist. I used 1/4" steel, bent at 90 degrees and drilled for two 5/8" bolts through the pintle. The horizontal portion is mated to the frame with 2 x 3/8 fine thread bolts. I need to clean/source the two pins in the hitch and assemble the rest. Warning...WET PAINT

I purchased a piece of steel rod and made the linkage that goes from the bell crank on the manifold to the throttle arm. I also hooked up my choke and throttle knob/cable to verify fitment and operation.

I'd appreciate any corrective comments on this part as I'll be mating the cab and hooking things up soon (whatever soon means :? )
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Re: Restoring WC12 W-231808

Post by USAFpj » Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:08 am

Looking good, Oz- I'm tempted to get the motor accessories secured today, and perform a test run for problems/timing/leaks, but smart money says to pull the transmission and replace the clutch/pressure plate/ring gear before I button it up. Always something to do...

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Post by 17thAirborne » Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:04 am

It never ends. I was tempted to start also, and probably should before I mount the cab as after that working on engine things might get more difficult. I am really thinking all I will have will be minor leaks and timing to correct. :? If I had more experience, I'd probably have her running smoothly by now. but I'm getting there. I will leave the lower clutch cover off so I can verify how dry that will be.
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Re: Restoring WC12 W-231808

Post by USAFpj » Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:08 am

If I had more experience, I'd probably have her running smoothly by now.
Oz- I learned a long time ago from Mr. Gibbons (ARTIFICER) that a key piece of cheap equipment is a vacuum gauge. They are wonderfully simplistic. Screw one end into your intake exhaust port, secure the gauge, loosen your dizzy just a hair. Start your motor, and while watching the gauge, twist the dizzy clockwise and counter until she idles smoothly. Back off just a smidge, and secure the dizzy.

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Post by 17thAirborne » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:25 pm

USAFpj wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:08 am
If I had more experience, I'd probably have her running smoothly by now.
Oz- I learned a long time ago from Mr. Gibbons (ARTIFICER) that a key piece of cheap equipment is a vacuum gauge. They are wonderfully simplistic. Screw one end into your intake exhaust port, secure the gauge, loosen your dizzy just a hair. Start your motor, and while watching the gauge, twist the dizzy clockwise and counter until she idles smoothly. Back off just a smidge, and secure the dizzy.
I do need a v gauge. Will get one. As i am adjusting the dizzy, what do i look for on the gauge? I look forward to trying this.
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Re: Restoring WC12 W-231808

Post by USAFpj » Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:33 am

Good morning, Oz. Take this website as a general tool that was offered up by John Gibbons as well. http://www.gregsengine.com/using-a-vacuum-gauge.html

The best instruction I can give is to install the gauge, and just adjust the distributor back and forth slowly so that you can see how the motor responds, and then get to that 17-21in.

http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/186.cfm

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Post by 17thAirborne » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:11 am

Thanks much!! The table in the first article will help.
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Post by 17thAirborne » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:43 pm

Back to wiper motors. I guess it's just my bad luck for trusting a seller when they say a "set" of NOS wiper motors. Like I said, they aren't even for the WC and they are two passenger side. I have a spare driver's side top and body from another KSB. I will swap the parts all around so I can make a true "set" of motors. I have ordered the gasket and rivet set, am cleaning up the two motors and swapping out the parts. The key component is the wiper shaft which has the correct hardware that fits the WC, it's just that the holes in the covers in the upper dash do not line up L/R, up or down. I will weld the holes shut, mark the location of the on/off shaft, redrill and install new grommets in the cover.

In the meanwhile, I am cleaning up the guts and replacing the new gaskets after they arrive. There was a lot of cosmolene that leaked into the innards, so its good to take them apart even if they are NOS. The key is to use brake or tranny fluid to lube the inside (As I have read on many jalopy forums.) Here are a few pics, but since there are several how to vids I am not going to spend a few hours showing the cleaning and repair. You do have to take the flap apart and rotate it so the cup and flapper line up properly. Requires a new rivet. You;ll see when you rebuild yours. :?
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Re: Restoring WC12 W-231808

Post by 17thAirborne » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:27 pm

I made sure the cylinder head bolts were propely torqued down. I set the engine to TDC on the No 1 in the compression stroke and then set the distributor up per the TM. After verifying the points were just getting ready to open as I rotated the dizzy, I fastened the distributor adjustment nut down per the TM. I installed the cap, connected the correct ignition wires between the cap and the spark plug, set the spark caps and finished hooking them up on my temp spark plugs. I cleaned and installed the cover for the genny. Almost finished with engine details.
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Re: Restoring WC12 W-231808

Post by USAFpj » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:15 pm

Looks beautiful, Oz! I saved your image to my folder of 'engine pics' as a reference. I was looking at my generator tonight, as I'll be mounting it in the morning; are your mounting 'ears' oblong, or did you weld them up?

I was mounting the fan to the new water pump and was taking extra care not to scratch the freshly painted DCPD bolts. And then my Dad pointed out that the fan pulley goes in between the fan and the water pump :shock: :oops:

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Re: Restoring WC12 W-231808

Post by 17thAirborne » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:23 pm

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Looks beautiful, Oz! I saved your image to my folder of 'engine pics' as a reference. I was looking at my generator tonight, as I'll be mounting it in the morning; are your mounting 'ears' oblong, or did you weld them up?

I was mounting the fan to the new water pump and was taking extra care not to scratch the freshly painted DCPD bolts. And then my Dad pointed out that the fan pulley goes in between the fan and the water pump :shock: :oops:
Thanks! Holes in the ears were circular and no welding was needed. The bolts slid in and tightened up. Its always fun trying to figure out which bolts to make look nice and which to leave as is or replace. I seem to be missing the mark in a few cases as I had to do a lot of hardware replacement. I used Zeph's route and used Grade 8 on most of the connections. It's nice you are in a position to keep many of the original ones there. And by the way...Dad's are great to have around to keep you on track. 8)
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Re: Restoring WC12 W-231808

Post by vj » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:25 am

Oz, did not know you were on another project. Well as always it looks GREAT. Thanks for the pictures. :D I am back working on my 1970 dodge challenger 440 six pack. :D fun fun
I have got four running halftracks,plus 5 ton ww2 semi-truck,1943 willys jeep and other ww2 vehicles,plus a lot of parts to trade on. Wendell in Tn.

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Post by 17thAirborne » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:37 am

vj wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:25 am
Oz, did not know you were on another project. Well as always it looks GREAT. Thanks for the pictures. :D I am back working on my 1970 dodge challenger 440 six pack. :D fun fun
SOunds like a great project. I am getting fired up about moving to TN. Not sure when the home will sell. Just getting it on the market now. I look forward to seeing your projects!!!
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Re: Restoring WC12 W-231808

Post by 17thAirborne » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:04 pm

I did the final assembly on the pintle hitch. Getting the spring into the recess on the tiny post was not easy. I ended using three strong zip strips to completely compress the spring. I inserted it into the recess and then when it was in place I cut the zip strips to release the spring into position in the rear acess cavity and over the prong on the lock.

I also started some body work. Its dark now, so the progress does not show up well in the image, but my first efforts are paying dividends as my confidence in the filler is growing. I did spend quite a bit of time hammering the small dents out somewhat to minimize how much filler was needed. I'll keep working and shaping to get a nice proper curve to the cab top before tending to the lower panel. These are my first efforts in the middle of 30mph wind and a cold snap outside. I have a lot of sanding to do before getting the next feathered coat on. I'll use some reveal paint and a soft block to see where the low spots are. More to follow.
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