GMTK Toolboxes
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Re: GMTK Toolboxes
Henry,
You may have missed it above in my first reply, but I agree with Roger. There are many variations of colors on these boxes. Some more yellow, some more green. You either have to take your box to a hardware store (any good local-yokel store will have a guy who can paint match it) or experiment with some off the shelf stuff. I have used rattle cans, from light to darker, Krylon Satin Touch 'Italian Olive' 53522, Rustoleum Specialty Camouflage 'Army Green' 1920830 and Rustoleum Specialty Camouflage 'Deep Forest Green' 621128 with success. I have also used some leftover Gillespie 33070 that I used for touching up my jeep. And, I have mixed all of those in a cut-away plastic milk carton until I liked what I saw.
You may have missed it above in my first reply, but I agree with Roger. There are many variations of colors on these boxes. Some more yellow, some more green. You either have to take your box to a hardware store (any good local-yokel store will have a guy who can paint match it) or experiment with some off the shelf stuff. I have used rattle cans, from light to darker, Krylon Satin Touch 'Italian Olive' 53522, Rustoleum Specialty Camouflage 'Army Green' 1920830 and Rustoleum Specialty Camouflage 'Deep Forest Green' 621128 with success. I have also used some leftover Gillespie 33070 that I used for touching up my jeep. And, I have mixed all of those in a cut-away plastic milk carton until I liked what I saw.
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Re: GMTK Toolboxes
Greg,
Thanks again for the detailed reply. I'll give those colors a try or even try the local paint store. Those guys usually are way more helpful than the box store paint department guys.
Thanks again,
Henry
Thanks again for the detailed reply. I'll give those colors a try or even try the local paint store. Those guys usually are way more helpful than the box store paint department guys.
Thanks again,
Henry
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Re: GMTK Toolboxes
We have discussed many nuances of the GMTK tool box. From variations in the number of knuckles, shades of OD, corner supports, the presence or absence of primer, the presence or absence of a brand, stenciling and the presence of a rule on the ends of the lids on EJ McALEER boxes. We have seen variations in the trays as well. From one or two oiler holes, different shape handles, and minor variations in their layout but nothing like Robin's tray to my knowledge. My SNL '42 shows that many toolsets utilized the GMTK box but my RA PD photos do not show the tray and I don't recall that others do either. I wonder if the trays for these sets may have been unique to those sets.
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Re: GMTK Toolboxes
The sheet metal and radiator mechanic's tool-set in all the ORD 6 SNL G-27's between July 1944 and July 1945 has a RAPD figure that includes the 41-B-1840 toolbox, and that RAPD figure has a good intentional view of the tray. There are the familiar dividers on both sides.
Not sure where this is is from, but same thing in this image.
Not sure where this is is from, but same thing in this image.
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Re: GMTK Toolboxes
Greg,
Your gut instinct supported by countless hours of research is exceptional. What is it telling you about the dividers on Robin's tray?
phil
Your gut instinct supported by countless hours of research is exceptional. What is it telling you about the dividers on Robin's tray?
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Re: GMTK Toolboxes
I'd suggest that most manufacturers would offer a standard product as regards top tray, but for whatever minimum order value would be happy to reconfigure the colour, finish, dividers, maybe even linings for individual purchasers.
That would only really make sense if a specialist providers bought boxes and assembled full kits for a particular requirement though.
That would only really make sense if a specialist providers bought boxes and assembled full kits for a particular requirement though.
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Re: GMTK Toolboxes
Uh, thanks, Phil, but I just remembered the ORD used that tool-set to show the box for some reason. The other picture of the box has been floating around on the G since the days before we had a single reference for the GMTK. (Picture several blind men feeling around an elephant!)
As for Robin's box, I have no idea. It looks wartime, but it could be immediate post-war. If it is wartime, whatever tool-set it held was not covered by the SNL G-27. I suspect it would have a different FSN, also, since the tray was not a separate item. If a certain customer needed it that way, it would need a different stock number. I like your homemade shop mod hunch also.
Personally, I like the extra dividers. And they are simply extra. The socket tray divider and the other divider on the other side of the tray are in the same place and the same length and shapes. The cross-pieces would be nice for keeping things in place. There's certainly no shortcoming without them. When the top tray is packed snugly, nothing moves around much. But I like them.
As for Robin's box, I have no idea. It looks wartime, but it could be immediate post-war. If it is wartime, whatever tool-set it held was not covered by the SNL G-27. I suspect it would have a different FSN, also, since the tray was not a separate item. If a certain customer needed it that way, it would need a different stock number. I like your homemade shop mod hunch also.
Personally, I like the extra dividers. And they are simply extra. The socket tray divider and the other divider on the other side of the tray are in the same place and the same length and shapes. The cross-pieces would be nice for keeping things in place. There's certainly no shortcoming without them. When the top tray is packed snugly, nothing moves around much. But I like them.
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Re: GMTK Toolboxes
I picked this off the interweb and was originally excited to find it. I got back from holiday to find it on the doorstep and was a little disappointed.
It leaves me a little confused I cant work out if its early or late or just a late copy. No markings on it and no green paint. No oiler hole, tray divisions are wrong, the lid flaps do not have the fold over seem and the feet are crudely made,although size and shape are perfect. It will look OK when painted up and from a distance
It leaves me a little confused I cant work out if its early or late or just a late copy. No markings on it and no green paint. No oiler hole, tray divisions are wrong, the lid flaps do not have the fold over seem and the feet are crudely made,although size and shape are perfect. It will look OK when painted up and from a distance
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That box is a bit of an odd duck, right Roger. If the dimensions are a match, I'm wondering if it could be a British copy of the 41-B-1840? Perhaps for a similar tool kit, but no provision for an oiler? The feet are odd and unlike any that I've seen. The construction of the box in general appears to be of mass manufacture. Perhaps you could recoup a bit of money by selling the tray to Gordon? All it needs is a nice hole drilled into it for the oiler...
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Re: GMTK Toolboxes
Unfortunately the partitioning of the tray is wrong
I had wondered about local manufacture.
Here is a document showing that 820 filled tool chests were supplied to the US Army Engineers, this is to the end of June 1944. I can't seem to find anymore info though.
Also of note is the amount of chisels,hacksaws and hammers supplied, no wonder I cant find any US ones over here
I had wondered about local manufacture.
Here is a document showing that 820 filled tool chests were supplied to the US Army Engineers, this is to the end of June 1944. I can't seem to find anymore info though.
Also of note is the amount of chisels,hacksaws and hammers supplied, no wonder I cant find any US ones over here
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Re: GMTK Toolboxes
This is probably aside from the WWII theme of the site, but does anyone know where I can find the content list of the items for the GMTK tool set that would have been used in the 1960s to 1980s time frame? Would it be the same list of tools, or would it have been updated by the 20-40 year mark? The current GMTK looks like a smaller version of the Snap-On catalog's contents, I figure the 1960s would have been a little more involved in its contents, but nowhere near what is currently issued.
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Here is a link that may give you some clues, you may want to contact Wingnutt direct for more info.
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That was fun!
maddawg - What you see in that link is all I have, and that's a May 1980 kit.
maddawg - What you see in that link is all I have, and that's a May 1980 kit.
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Many thanks! That answers a lot of my questions, like was said in the thread, 1.They got it right in the first tool kit in WWII, and 2.It's changed very little since then.Wingnutt wrote:That was fun!
maddawg - What you see in that link is all I have, and that's a May 1980 kit.
This will be of great help for those who have vehicles in the Vietnam through late Cold War timeframe who want an authentic kit for their vehicle.
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Here is a new toolbox that I purchased on the auction site to house my GMTK. The markings on the side greatly resemble Phil's famous "Wynmkr" box. As these marked boxes are quite rare, I just had to have it no matter the cost.The box looks to me like an unmarked McAleer.
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