U.S. GAS JERRYCAN MANUFACTURERS LIST (41-45)
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Re: U.S. GAS JERRYCAN MANUFACTURERS LIST (41-45)
This may be a dumb question, but where is this list and how can I see it?
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Duane
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Re: U.S. GAS JERRYCAN MANUFACTURERS LIST (41-45)
I think it is on page 3.
Limited access.
1942 August Willys MB
Complete MVMTS 100% sourced in the ETO
Empty vessels make the most noise .......
1942 August Willys MB
Complete MVMTS 100% sourced in the ETO
Empty vessels make the most noise .......
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Re: U.S. GAS JERRYCAN MANUFACTURERS LIST (41-45)
I picked up one of these today. I saw the unusual cap and figured I would buy it and figure out if it was legit later.gerrykan wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:43 amold arkie,
Your description sounds like a 1941 galvanized can.
Not super rare, but usually more desirable than the 1942-45 standard cans.
1941 cans had a two lug(ear) lid with the chain riveted directly to the lid without the heavy wire bar seen on later cans.
The 1-inch indentation is thought to be an access hole for galvanizing the inside of the can.
It should be dated on the bottom 5-20-41.
Does it have a G(gasoline) or W(water) embossed into the side.
1941 screw lid water cans are rarer than 1941 gasoline cans.
On the bottom it is stamped ICC-5, Wheeling. I get those and know what those are, but the line under that, which I assume is the date of manufacture, says 20 51/4 41 (twenty, five and one quarter, fourth one). Why the 5 1/4 (five and one quarter)?
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'42 GPW, 81451 (my Dad's)
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'42 GPW, 81451 (my Dad's)
I'm the father of a teenage daughter,
all I do is think of new ways to say no.
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Re: U.S. GAS JERRYCAN MANUFACTURERS LIST (41-45)
Harms,
The 5 1/4(five and one quarter) is near the actual capacity of the can.
The German inventors of the jerrycan designed an 'air gap' into the can to help with expansion and contraction caused by temperature differences, to lessen stress on the can.
It also allowed a full can to float if dropped into the drink(water).
ICC(Interstate Commerce Commission) regulations (ICC 5) regarding containers for explosive and dangerous articles shipped by common carriers(railroads, trucking companies, etc.) were to be marked with the nominal* capacity of the container.
* https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nominal
My opinion is that some USA manufacturers embossed the actual capacity because the civilian cans that they manufactured at the time were marked with the actual capacity of the can.
The 20 in front of the 5-1/4 is the gauge of the steel the can is made from, also determined by the ICC.
The 41 is the last 2 digits of the year of manufacture (1941), as you probably already know.
The 5 1/4(five and one quarter) is near the actual capacity of the can.
The German inventors of the jerrycan designed an 'air gap' into the can to help with expansion and contraction caused by temperature differences, to lessen stress on the can.
It also allowed a full can to float if dropped into the drink(water).
ICC(Interstate Commerce Commission) regulations (ICC 5) regarding containers for explosive and dangerous articles shipped by common carriers(railroads, trucking companies, etc.) were to be marked with the nominal* capacity of the container.
* https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nominal
My opinion is that some USA manufacturers embossed the actual capacity because the civilian cans that they manufactured at the time were marked with the actual capacity of the can.
The 20 in front of the 5-1/4 is the gauge of the steel the can is made from, also determined by the ICC.
The 41 is the last 2 digits of the year of manufacture (1941), as you probably already know.
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Re: U.S. GAS JERRYCAN MANUFACTURERS LIST (41-45)
Hi Luca,
I think I may have another manufacturer to add to the list. PSD Co. which might be Point Spring & Drive Shaft Company. They have bin in business since 1926 located in Pittsburgh PA. I contacted them and they have no history of manufacturing Jerry cans. Who Knows, the company may have changed hands through the years and all of the company's history may be lost. Too bad. I enclosed some photos of the can. I hope this helps.
Paul
I think I may have another manufacturer to add to the list. PSD Co. which might be Point Spring & Drive Shaft Company. They have bin in business since 1926 located in Pittsburgh PA. I contacted them and they have no history of manufacturing Jerry cans. Who Knows, the company may have changed hands through the years and all of the company's history may be lost. Too bad. I enclosed some photos of the can. I hope this helps.
Paul
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1960 Hotchkiss M201
1951 JDF 1/4 ton
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1951 JDF 1/4 ton
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Paul,
Unfortunately Luca rarely appears here anymore like some other very knowledgeable folks.
P.S.D. Co stands for Pittsburgh Steel Drum Company
Unfortunately Luca rarely appears here anymore like some other very knowledgeable folks.
P.S.D. Co stands for Pittsburgh Steel Drum Company
Roy
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Roy,
Thanks for the correction on the manufacturer. Now I know what I have
Paul
Thanks for the correction on the manufacturer. Now I know what I have
Paul
1960 Hotchkiss M201
1951 JDF 1/4 ton
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1951 JDF 1/4 ton
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Re: U.S. GAS JERRYCAN MANUFACTURERS LIST (41-45)
Hi everyone.
I don't know if the list of can still works.
I don't think I found it there:
JR TOY (45)
ICC - 5 (43 and 44)
I don't know if the list of can still works.
I don't think I found it there:
JR TOY (45)
ICC - 5 (43 and 44)
4th Armored Division, 46th Medical Battalion
1943-01-22 Dodge WC-54
1944-06-28 Jeep Willys MB
1942-08---- Willys MBT, Trailer 1/4 ton
1944-06-10 Dodge WC-63
1943 --------Ammunition Trailer M10, The Youngstown Steel Door Co.
1943-------- Ford GTBA, Cargo Truck W/winch, US NAVY
1943-01-22 Dodge WC-54
1944-06-28 Jeep Willys MB
1942-08---- Willys MBT, Trailer 1/4 ton
1944-06-10 Dodge WC-63
1943 --------Ammunition Trailer M10, The Youngstown Steel Door Co.
1943-------- Ford GTBA, Cargo Truck W/winch, US NAVY
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And then this American from the beginning of the war, he has no inscriptions on him.
4th Armored Division, 46th Medical Battalion
1943-01-22 Dodge WC-54
1944-06-28 Jeep Willys MB
1942-08---- Willys MBT, Trailer 1/4 ton
1944-06-10 Dodge WC-63
1943 --------Ammunition Trailer M10, The Youngstown Steel Door Co.
1943-------- Ford GTBA, Cargo Truck W/winch, US NAVY
1943-01-22 Dodge WC-54
1944-06-28 Jeep Willys MB
1942-08---- Willys MBT, Trailer 1/4 ton
1944-06-10 Dodge WC-63
1943 --------Ammunition Trailer M10, The Youngstown Steel Door Co.
1943-------- Ford GTBA, Cargo Truck W/winch, US NAVY
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And this "European type", USA 1945.
4th Armored Division, 46th Medical Battalion
1943-01-22 Dodge WC-54
1944-06-28 Jeep Willys MB
1942-08---- Willys MBT, Trailer 1/4 ton
1944-06-10 Dodge WC-63
1943 --------Ammunition Trailer M10, The Youngstown Steel Door Co.
1943-------- Ford GTBA, Cargo Truck W/winch, US NAVY
1943-01-22 Dodge WC-54
1944-06-28 Jeep Willys MB
1942-08---- Willys MBT, Trailer 1/4 ton
1944-06-10 Dodge WC-63
1943 --------Ammunition Trailer M10, The Youngstown Steel Door Co.
1943-------- Ford GTBA, Cargo Truck W/winch, US NAVY
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Re: U.S. GAS JERRYCAN MANUFACTURERS LIST (41-45)
Approximate English possible error sorry !
Hotchkiss-Willys m 201 1960
Jerrycans German, USA, UK, French ...
Web site in french : http://philippeleger5.wix.com/jerrycan-
Hotchkiss-Willys m 201 1960
Jerrycans German, USA, UK, French ...
Web site in french : http://philippeleger5.wix.com/jerrycan-
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Conco Contract Info
Per the link above from Leon, HD Conkey is CONCO. Per the Major Wartime Supply Contracts books, CONCO had $674,000 of contracts with the Army Quartermaster (QM) expressly for Jerry cans. In addition, CONCO had contracts with the US Marine Corps (listed in the MWSC book as NOM) for $2.3M plus of cans and expeditionary cans. I'm assuming that expeditionary cans are Jerry Cans; that contract was $320,000 and ran from 1942-43.
To read the table I've copied from the book:
Column 1 Description Contract Number
Column 2 Army, Navy, Maritime Commerce Commission, etc.
Column 3 Contract value in hundreds of thousands of $ (i.e. 322 = $322,000)
Column 4 Start month/year
Column 5 End month/year
I only have 3 of the 4 MWSC books, which I pulled down from the internet after some searching. I know that I'm missing the book for all manufacturers with a name starting after "Rex," but will attempt to extract some more pertinent info (Rheem, US Metal Can and Wheeling are significant impacts here).
Thanks to Wingnutt for teaching me that these books are out there, and available via Google Books.
To read the table I've copied from the book:
Column 1 Description Contract Number
Column 2 Army, Navy, Maritime Commerce Commission, etc.
Column 3 Contract value in hundreds of thousands of $ (i.e. 322 = $322,000)
Column 4 Start month/year
Column 5 End month/year
I only have 3 of the 4 MWSC books, which I pulled down from the internet after some searching. I know that I'm missing the book for all manufacturers with a name starting after "Rex," but will attempt to extract some more pertinent info (Rheem, US Metal Can and Wheeling are significant impacts here).
Thanks to Wingnutt for teaching me that these books are out there, and available via Google Books.
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Cavalier Contract Info
Cavalier Corporation, Chattanooga, TN.
$10M+ total contracts
$2,824,000 in water container contracts (all to the Army)
$364,000 in container contracts (all to the Army)
Shortcomings of the MWSC books:
1. They only show contracts greater than $50,000.
2. The contract descriptions are necessarily short and can be vague. I don't know of any way to find the individual contract-level detail. Thus, it's hard to know if the contracts I've listed above are for Jerry Cans, or some other type of cans. I'm not including items which are clearly not jerry cans such as ammo boxes or cans.
$10M+ total contracts
$2,824,000 in water container contracts (all to the Army)
$364,000 in container contracts (all to the Army)
Shortcomings of the MWSC books:
1. They only show contracts greater than $50,000.
2. The contract descriptions are necessarily short and can be vague. I don't know of any way to find the individual contract-level detail. Thus, it's hard to know if the contracts I've listed above are for Jerry Cans, or some other type of cans. I'm not including items which are clearly not jerry cans such as ammo boxes or cans.
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Chattanooga Stamping Enameling Co
$3.9M+ Total contracts
$0 Contracts which are obviously Jerry Cans
We know from finding them that Chattanooga Stamping made Jerry cans. Was it on a contract for less than $50K? Was it on a vaguely named contract? Hard to say until we learn how to access specific contracts.
$0 Contracts which are obviously Jerry Cans
We know from finding them that Chattanooga Stamping made Jerry cans. Was it on a contract for less than $50K? Was it on a vaguely named contract? Hard to say until we learn how to access specific contracts.
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Bennett MFG Co
Bennett Manufacturing Co. Note, this was in Chicago, IL, not Madison, OH as shown on the link https://philippeleger5.wixsite.com/jerr ... icants-usa There was no Bennett Co. of any type listed in the MWSC book for Madison, OH.
$5M total contracts
$3.6M contracts to the Army for various drums and gasoline drums
$1.47M contracts to Navy Supply
$148k contract to the Army for "Containers, water" (which might be Jerry cans)
Since the Leger site above shows Bennett gasoline Jerry Cans dated 42, 43 and 44, and these Army contracts cover March 42 through March 44, I think it's fair to conclude at least some of various "Drums" were manufactured as Jerry cans. Several different parts of the Army had contracts with Bennett MFG: Air Corps, Chemical Warfare Service and QM.
$5M total contracts
$3.6M contracts to the Army for various drums and gasoline drums
$1.47M contracts to Navy Supply
$148k contract to the Army for "Containers, water" (which might be Jerry cans)
Since the Leger site above shows Bennett gasoline Jerry Cans dated 42, 43 and 44, and these Army contracts cover March 42 through March 44, I think it's fair to conclude at least some of various "Drums" were manufactured as Jerry cans. Several different parts of the Army had contracts with Bennett MFG: Air Corps, Chemical Warfare Service and QM.
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