GP Rebuild in the Great Wide Open

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Re: GP Rebuild in the Great Wide Open

Post by lawcdw » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:31 pm

She is Pretty Much the Next Owner of GP-9687.And she Loves Great Grandads Jeep as much as i do!!!
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Re: GP Rebuild in the Great Wide Open

Post by lawcdw » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:35 pm

OH HOW SHE CRACKS ME UP!!!
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Re: GP Rebuild in the Great Wide Open

Post by lawcdw » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:43 pm

So this is my Best Friend in Life my Grandaughter,my Inspiration,my World.Dads ole Jeep must be in very good Condition so Bella can stretch Dads Legacy even further than i ever could.So i am building this Jeep for Her to keep it all going!!!
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Re: GP Rebuild in the Great Wide Open

Post by 1/321FA » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:06 pm

That's fantastic. I had a niece at that age that could name every part of a dragster and amazed the drivers at the drag strip. She is going to look good in it. I bet she is in the first parade in it with you for sure. :wink:
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Re: GP Rebuild in the Great Wide Open

Post by DannyP » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:22 pm

Looking good Claude! You feel free to send Bella my way anytime. I need an ACE mechanic! I obviously don't know what I'm doing!
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Re: GP Rebuild in the Great Wide Open

Post by lawcdw » Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:20 pm

Oh Danny you are doing very well it seems on your build.It is nice to know a fellow GPer swings in to take a look at my thread thank you for your Interest.AS MY Heater for the Auto Shelter quit working on me,i haven't done a whole lot on the Front Diff.Have been collecting most of the bearings and races.The Steering Knuckle Seals are special to the BRC and GP only so I will have to find a source for those.Mean while I am working on the tear down of the Engine Block that will end up in GP-9687.This Engine will get special treatment,i am working with my buddys machine shop and we are going to push the limits on building a very hot Camshaft,valve train,tweek the bore and stroke,and larger size pistons.To see if we can get somewhere close to 60 Horse Power or Greater!!!!! Sounds pretty Cool Right! 8)
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Re: GP Rebuild in the Great Wide Open

Post by lawcdw » Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:26 pm

This is what the Steering Knuckle Seals mount in to hold the Grease in,and keep the Dirt and Water out.I am also looking for inner and outer Axle Seals,and the two Brass/Bronze Bushings on the inner part of the Hub Stem!! And I found a Victor Grease Seal with a F Script Marking on it,so I should be able to cross that seal to get the Hub Seals I need!
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Re: GP Rebuild in the Great Wide Open

Post by lt.luke » Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:52 pm

Those steering knuckle seals look exactly like the ones from a MB/GPW. Are they different sizes? You may be able to find new rubbers on eBay.

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Re: GP Rebuild in the Great Wide Open

Post by lawcdw » Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:08 pm

Thanks Luke for your Observations,while they are very much the same they still accomplish the same Job.Here i will show the differences.And while the MB parts would probably work just fine,I think i will hold off for a bit to see if i can find OEM parts.If i were to use the MB parts i would have to Discard the Original GP Retainers.And i would rather wait it out for a bit,for the correct seals to be found.To be able to keep this Axle as it should be.
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Re: GP Rebuild in the Great Wide Open

Post by lawcdw » Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:19 pm

As you might have noticed,the GP Retainers are thick and have a double edge to hold the Half Seals in place.Plus their are two seal pieces per half retainer.While the MB/GPW Retainers are made of steel and somewhat thin and Knuckle Seal for that application is a one piece seal.
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Re: GP Rebuild in the Great Wide Open

Post by lawcdw » Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:27 pm

Now i guess the Question would be will the MB/GPW parts work? Answer YES.I will mount the one piece seal in the GP Pivot,and we can have a look.
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Re: GP Rebuild in the Great Wide Open

Post by lawcdw » Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:35 pm

Now to set in place The MB/GPW Felt Gasket and Retainer.And it all looks pretty good,it has a little Generic look to it but it would probably work in a pinch!
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Re: GP Rebuild in the Great Wide Open

Post by lt.luke » Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:45 pm

What you show as "MB parts" are aftermarket parts most closely associated With CJ parts.

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Re: GP Rebuild in the Great Wide Open

Post by lawcdw » Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:50 pm

I am hoping my friends in the Bantam Society and England will come to my Rescue,to see this GP get the proper parts to keep it as Original as it can be.Here we are looking at another difference the MB/GPW Spindle Bushing has a flange on it,it seems to be correct Dia,but i am unsure at this moment if the Flange would interfere with any thing,so i will have to address that issue.But if i came up with all correct parts for the GP it would make things less stressful !
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Re: GP Rebuild in the Great Wide Open

Post by lt.luke » Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:57 pm

If your email doesn't work, can you post an email?

I'll email you a pic of the steering knuckle seals and where to get them (they are in the US). Also, there are 3 types of axle shaft joints. Rezeppa, bendix and one I can't remember. Each type joint has a slightly different bushing/seal setup. Your GP probably has Rzeppas, identifiable by 6 big balls in the joint. That being the case, you need the non-flanged bushing AND the seal (standard type rubber and metal press in seal.) someone has sold you those flange bushings not knowing what you need. I bought them too, that's how I know they won't work.

The only difference between the GP and the GPW front diff is the axle tube length (and obviously the actual axle). GPW axle centers are even marked "GPxxxx".

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