Non level m38A1

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Non level m38A1

Post by fred varda » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:15 pm

How can you level up a 1954 M38A1 ? The drivers side is noticely lower than the other side. To help a friend I asked about correct tire pressure-okay
springs look okay no broken leafs. New rear shocks installed. Body was taken off by previous owner but he does not know if it was a problem before.
Body mounts are new and look good. Floors have some patching. I don+t know where else to look. Could someone give some Advice.Thanks

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Re: Non level m38A1

Post by Ben Dover » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:18 pm

It's not always the springs, frames can be twisted also.
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Re: Non level m38A1

Post by 4X4M38 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:20 am

Is this the infamous Willys lean?

Did the A1 suffer from same given it had the same drivetrain mounting design as it’s earlier brothers?

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Re: Non level m38A1

Post by Ben Dover » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:31 am

This problem was not as bad thru the 60's when Genuine Willys (Jeep) factory parts and better quality replacement parts were available. Aftermarket brands such as MOOG, Flagg, etc could be mixed with originals from Jeep Factory with no worry about "lean".
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Re: Non level m38A1

Post by Cabin Fever » Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:22 pm

I was told that due to the jeep normally carrying the driver only on the left side, as well as having the gas tank on the left side, the jeep would eventually sag on the left side, The usual fix is to swap the springs from side to side.
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Re: Non level m38A1

Post by Jeeps4Brains » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:05 am

On the high side you could place a metal spring block between the spring and the bottom plate where the shock mounts to. That might lower the high side to more match the lower side.

Folks have been doing this to lower vehicles for ages. If you put a thick block there then you will have to have new spring mount U bolts made.

This will even up the ride but purists won't like it.
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Re: Non level m38A1

Post by fred varda » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:21 pm

Many many thanks to all you members who replied. I will pass the info on and will try and find out the conclusion. I will try and post if anything
changes.

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Re: Non level m38A1

Post by MASH_4077 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:14 pm

Thats every jeep lol

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Re: Non level m38A1

Post by Ben Dover » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:15 am

If your Jeep with matching original or original quality replacement springs leans, the first stop should be a frame shop to check for a bent or twisted frame.
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Re: Non level m38A1

Post by JMZ421 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:28 pm

I actaully had this leaning thing on my list when inspecting my M38 to purchase, thanks to advice from everyone here. One of many things. Mine must not have been parachuted or did any rock crawling. Nice and level. If it was driver weight, mine would be on 2 wheels. John

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