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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by markrdje » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:51 pm

What a conglomeration of engine parts!
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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by W. Winget » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:43 am

I reiterate it's worth keeping due to rarity you have one of Two Ford testbeds (at least the engine is Ford, I wonder about the body)
It's a MUTT L141 engine bottom end, You might ask Ford or USTACOM, digging a little FCP is Ford Combustion Process (compared to the Texaco Combustion Process) which was tested at the same time as both they and Ford won the competition which went on since about '65 or so till early '70's.

Bishop, I. N., Simko A, A new concept of stratified charge combustion - The Ford Combustion Process (FCP), SAE Transactions, paper 680041, Vol 77 pg 93-117, 1968.
The design and development of a stratified charge engine incorporating a unique fuel injection system is described. The essential features of the combustion system and fuel systems, the engine characteristics, and the performance of a vehicle fitted with this engine are presented in detail. The engine, running on gasoline, is shown to have a thermal efficiency approaching that of some popular vehicular diesel engines, but without the smoke and noise of a diesel.
https://doi.org/10.4271/680041
Author(s): I. N. Bishop Aladar Simko
Affiliated: Engineering and Research Staff, Ford Motor Co.
Pages: 29 Bad news is it costs $27 from the SAE site...

BUT:

Here's an article:http://www.jstor.org/stable/24535471?se ... b_contents
If you hit thumbnails it shows several pages, but I think you would have to ask them for a copy of the article (free) to download it.

Also an article about the tests "Exhaust Emissions From a Stratified Charge Ford Combustion Process (FCP) Engine 1970" :
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https://nepis.epa.gov/Exe/tiff2png.cgi/ ... 00X60R.TIF it's on the EPA site: https://www.epa.gov/

And from page 34 to37 of an Army research pub:
"The FCP features a lowpressure fuel injection system unitized with the ignition distributor.
(See Figure 2.)
Combustion control is achieved by the timing of the injection and the ignition. At light load operation, full stratification must be maintained to
insure ignition of the mixture at the spark plug-by injecting the fuel late, and igniting it before injection is completed.
As the load increases, more fuel dispersion is allowable, and even desirable, to obtain fast and complete combustion. For this condition, injection
timing is advanced as the load increases."
See more page 34:
http://asc.army.mil/docs/pubs/alt/archi ... r_1971.PDF

"FCP. The TACOM program on the Ford Combustion Process engine was initiated in 1967. One single-cylinder and two multicylinder L-141-FCP engines have been built. About 800 hours of test time has been accumulated on the single-cylinder and about 700 hours on the multicylinder engine.
Two M-151-FCP test bed vehicular installations have been made. One was labeled best economy and the other best emissions." :D

:idea: Trade it for another MUTT if you don't want to mess with it, it's not in too terrible of shape.
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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by Rickf » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:55 am

Wow! This is one of those cases where you have a ultra rare vehicle that is worth a ton in historical value but as far a money, only what some collector is willing to pay to put it in a museum. Unfortunately the M-151 does not have the following or support like the Jeep does. The Ford people do not acknowledge it and the Jeep people hate it. It is only liked by the people that drove it. Just like any rare vehicle prototype, some day it will be worth a lot of money but who knows when. If you have the wherewithal then by all means, keep it. If not then shop it around to some of the museums.
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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by dixcrix » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:02 am

I would be interested in selling it or possibly trading for a decent running uncut M151 call if you have any questions 507 339 1300 Randy
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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by dixcrix » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:58 pm

I would be willing to sell the151 for $8000 or poss trade call me at 507 339 1300 Thanks Randy
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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by dixcrix » Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:08 am

I would lower price to $7000 or trade call me at 507 339 1300 Randy
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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by dixcrix » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:52 pm

I have lowered price to $6000 or poss trade thanks call 507 339 1300
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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by dixcrix » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:15 pm

Price lowered to $5500 or poss trade call Randy 507 339 1300 Thanks
FV432- Ferret -Gamma Goat-Saladin-M3 autocar Halftrack-2 LVT4-2 M35s one with winch,M923-M135-m151-M38-M4 high speed modified to a M3A3 Stuart,MB jeep-1934 Hotchkiss 25mm-37mm bofors Russian-ZPU2-ZPU4-M106 recoiless-R71 bmw with side car replica-Dnepr with side car-weasel t24-M37-M715-Passe par tout ammo carrier-Bombardier Muskeg carrier-M113 xm734-Type 99 field gun.

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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by acudanut » Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:06 pm

Wow, Looks NASA complicated and where would you find new injectors for starters.

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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by acudanut » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:59 am

***SOLD***

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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by acudanut » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:09 am

dixcrix wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:02 am
I would be interested in selling it or possibly trading for a decent running uncut M151 call if you have any questions 507 339 1300 Randy

You failed to show the true condition of the frame.

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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by acudanut » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:38 am

dixcrix wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:58 pm
I would be willing to sell the151 for $8000 or poss trade call me at 507 339 1300 Thanks Randy

Yeah, Me too. (except I am the new owner and you can e-mail me about a trade)

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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by acudanut » Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:26 pm

Surveyor, Could you please post pic's of frame.

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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by Surveyor » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:17 am

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1960 M151 Run #1 (working on it)

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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by Rickf » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:59 pm

Extreme closeups are great for the guy taking them since he knows exactly what he is looking at. They can be a bit tough for the rest of us. I see the front cross member, that is not a big deal and is readily available. I see the rear cross member which will have to be fabricated and is going to involve some fairly careful work to get things lined up. What I do not see is much of anything else. Is there major damage on the rest of the under body or just those two areas?
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